More EU interventionalist bollocks...
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4271197.stm
They just can't leave alone, can they?
The compensation culture, officially sanctioned by the virulent strain of 'get business at any cost' French socialism that permeates huge great bloody swathes of the Europarle, cites this as the 'EU working for the people.'
Well tough titty: you have a cattle herd spec air service, that costs virtually nothing to enable the great unwashed to go swanning orf all over the damn place and idiot politicians even bothering to worry about the odd balls up, then screwing up the whole shooting party because it's not BA Club Class smooth.
When oh-bloody-when will these arse brained d1ckweeds realise that you literally CANNOT get something for nothing?
Let's hope Putin gets bored and invades...
They just can't leave alone, can they?
The compensation culture, officially sanctioned by the virulent strain of 'get business at any cost' French socialism that permeates huge great bloody swathes of the Europarle, cites this as the 'EU working for the people.'
Well tough titty: you have a cattle herd spec air service, that costs virtually nothing to enable the great unwashed to go swanning orf all over the damn place and idiot politicians even bothering to worry about the odd balls up, then screwing up the whole shooting party because it's not BA Club Class smooth.
When oh-bloody-when will these arse brained d1ckweeds realise that you literally CANNOT get something for nothing?
Let's hope Putin gets bored and invades...
LRdriver II said:So If I want a weekend away and can only afford £50 for a ticket I should just realise I'm just not rich enough for international travel then
Who cares if airline tickets rise from 42£ (average Sleazyjet fare) to £100..I dont, if I in return get some customer service.
Load of old arse
There are plenty of higher price guaranteed (as guaranteed as you can get anyway) services out there and the cheap flights are only avaiable because they fill the planes 105% (or something)
Why can't they just be honest about it and let the skin-flints among us have our cheap flights
I went to Manchester (from Gatwick) a couple of weekends ago for £14 each way. If it was £100. flying up for dinner (even though my mates are very nice) just wouldn't be worth it
LRdriver II said:
I agree with this new rule tbh..
All the lowcosts need a kick up the proverbial as they have NO intention of ever providing customer service.
If you want better service then pay for it and go scheduled. There is no such thing as a free lunch, cheap flights work for most people if the odd one goes wrong - so be it.
A while back we had to fly to Dublin last minute, it cost us(2) about £700 but it was not delayed much(!)and we had metal cutlery, was it worth the extra, was it f
k.
I'm quite lucky really, I've flown over 100 times and never had to pay for one 
I think its a good idea. If you want a mega-cheap flight, turn up at the airport and buy an empty seat 1 hour before the plane takes off. Its outrageous that airlines routinely overbook aircraft seats, a friend of mine fell foul of this on one occasion and had to fly out at a different time, a problem that cost his employer considerably.
I think its a good idea. If you want a mega-cheap flight, turn up at the airport and buy an empty seat 1 hour before the plane takes off. Its outrageous that airlines routinely overbook aircraft seats, a friend of mine fell foul of this on one occasion and had to fly out at a different time, a problem that cost his employer considerably.
to put in my 2p.
I think that the squeezyjets have been good for the industry because it resulted in a kick up the rear to the scheduled airlines regarding pricing and complicated ticketing rules.
Equally this rule will kick the budgets up the rear because their behaviour has been scandalous and in some cases their customer service ethos non existent.
It really is interesting when you see passengers who have previously only flown on budget airlines embark on their first scheduled flight. Things like seat allocation are a total mystery to them. About the time of the last big footy tournament there was a right barney up in business class as some burberry wearing plonkers adopted the "ooh these seats are much bigger than the ones back there" and just deposited themselves. One brain cell between 'em and not sure who was using it that day.
I do appreciate the point being made about interference but there are times when codes of practice and boy scouts honour just doesn't work and regulation is needed. e.g. cowboy clampers charter delayed again.......
I think that the squeezyjets have been good for the industry because it resulted in a kick up the rear to the scheduled airlines regarding pricing and complicated ticketing rules.
Equally this rule will kick the budgets up the rear because their behaviour has been scandalous and in some cases their customer service ethos non existent.
It really is interesting when you see passengers who have previously only flown on budget airlines embark on their first scheduled flight. Things like seat allocation are a total mystery to them. About the time of the last big footy tournament there was a right barney up in business class as some burberry wearing plonkers adopted the "ooh these seats are much bigger than the ones back there" and just deposited themselves. One brain cell between 'em and not sure who was using it that day.
I do appreciate the point being made about interference but there are times when codes of practice and boy scouts honour just doesn't work and regulation is needed. e.g. cowboy clampers charter delayed again.......
Ribol said:
If you want better service then pay for it and go scheduled.
Shouldn't have to. It's going from the same airport and flying in the same sky therefore why should the same thing not happen when it gets delayed. I don't see why i should have to pay for a £250 sandwich with BA to get better service than BMI.
agent006 said:
If you want better service then pay for it and go scheduled.
Shouldn't have to. It's going from the same airport and flying in the same sky therefore why should the same thing not happen when it gets delayed. I don't see why i should have to pay for a £250 sandwich with BA to get better service than BMI.
You don't, don't fly with BA and stay home. If you get any cheap service in any industry there is always a price to pay, with budget airlines you sometimes get messed about a bit. You always have the choice of not using them.
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Let's hope Putin gets bored and invades...[/quote]
He's too wily for that.
Signs the Kyoto Crap 'cos the EU govt's want to bloddy the Bush nose and they will give Russia a load of dosh for and expect, in reality, nothing in return.
Russia will do nothing and wait for Europe to implode economically from funding Russia, taking on all the old CCCP territories and trying to reduce CO2 output by a few tons.
Meanwhile his 'envoys' have escaped with a few billions and are buying up the EU. When the time comes he will Yukos them and reclaim whatever they have purchased - probably about half of the EU given Russia's ability to provide raw energy products.
Then he will pick a fight with the Chinese ...
Let's hope Putin gets bored and invades...[/quote]
He's too wily for that.
Signs the Kyoto Crap 'cos the EU govt's want to bloddy the Bush nose and they will give Russia a load of dosh for and expect, in reality, nothing in return.
Russia will do nothing and wait for Europe to implode economically from funding Russia, taking on all the old CCCP territories and trying to reduce CO2 output by a few tons.
Meanwhile his 'envoys' have escaped with a few billions and are buying up the EU. When the time comes he will Yukos them and reclaim whatever they have purchased - probably about half of the EU given Russia's ability to provide raw energy products.
Then he will pick a fight with the Chinese ...
tycho said:
It is ridiculous for the EU to set a monetary value on this. At the most, it should be a percentage of your ticket value up to a max of 100%. If I paid £10 for a ticket, I'd be hoping it would get cancelled as I could get £170 back.
Bingo.
The proponents of this rule should devote their energies to something worthy, like swimming the Atlantic.
I wonder if people will start buying up the super cheap seats without the intention of travelling - just gambling that a % will be cancelled.
For those wanting something a bit better than sleazyjet - www.club328.com/
For those wanting something a bit better than sleazyjet - www.club328.com/
This is clearly bollox. Personally I'd be more in favour of them getting their acts together and actually taxing aviation fuel so that the price paid to travel reflects better the CO2 emissions associated - they tax the motorist to hell and back, why should the airlines escape that? They are defended as nationalistic cartels - let a few of them go bust and force some consolidation of a bloated industry.
Yes, this move too would put prices up, but I consider return tickets for a 2 hour flight at £2 + airport taxes to be clearly uneconomic and not, overall, a positive thing for society.
Yes, this move too would put prices up, but I consider return tickets for a 2 hour flight at £2 + airport taxes to be clearly uneconomic and not, overall, a positive thing for society.
nel said:
This is clearly bollox. Personally I'd be more in favour of them getting their acts together and actually taxing aviation fuel so that the price paid to travel reflects better the CO2 emissions associated - they tax the motorist to hell and back, why should the airlines escape that?
So we get shafted when we drive the car and when we leave it at home and fly we still get shafted.
Great plan - do you not think we pay enough taxes already regardless of what name they go under?
Wasn't one of the main aims of this to try and make overbooking of flights uneconomical for airlines. I've been caught out with an airline that overbooked places and it's not on at all. The tickets had been booked and payed for a month in advance so why wasn't I able to board the aircraft? The policy to overbook flights is a shitty trick and screws up peoples travel plans so why should they not be compensated for the inconvenience? If you had an important meeting to get to I'm sure you'd just laugh at the jolly airline chaps who are now telling you that you can't fly because the aircraft seats 200 and they booked 250 on it just so they don't loose some revenue because a couple didn't turn up.
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