Death in service - guidance
Death in service - guidance
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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Today I received the sad news that an employee passed away this morning. Went in for a routine knee operation, found something else.

I've not faced this situation before and would welcome guidance or experience from others about how to progress?

Communication with employees our side and client
Communication with the family
Attendance at funeral
And collections / company donation / "gift" to charity or something which would be valued by the family.

Thank you.

surveyor

18,705 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Welshbeef said:
Today I received the sad news that an employee passed away this morning. Went in for a routine knee operation, found something else.

I've not faced this situation before and would welcome guidance or experience from others about how to progress?

Communication with employees our side and client
Communication with the family
Attendance at funeral
And collections / company donation / "gift" to charity or something which would be valued by the family.

Thank you.
From my thinking and when it has happened to others.

A phone call to the family. You've lost a employee they've lost an awful lot more. All of the company bits and pieces can wait.
Funeral - I'd go, and let anyone else who wanted to go.
Collections - Assuming this was unexpected anything which would be valued by the family surely most appropriate. Maybe offer to pay for the wake / or some funeral expenses - stuff that will make a difference in the short term.

Communication. depends on how many employee's / clients. Email possibly most appropriate as it let's everyone react privately as they feel.

Simpo Two

93,022 posts

296 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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I think it's entirely up to you, bearing in mind your relationship with the employee and the size of the company. It could be anything from a full turn-out if a small business to a bunch of flowers if big/distant. Or nothing. Their death was not as a result of their employment with you - you're not obliged to be involved if it might be deemed inappropriate by them/the family.

Do what you think is right/appropriate.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Thanks appreciated.

Dixy

3,669 posts

236 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Are you entitled to compensation as they failed to work their notice.







Sorry, I'll get my coat.

EViS

408 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Dixy said:
Are you entitled to compensation as they failed to work their notice.







Sorry, I'll get my coat.
Oh my gosh, I sniggered at that! I'm a bad, bad person. Am I going to hell? Hopefully I won't see this chap there. Ok, that's a step too far. Sorry.

Simpo Two

93,022 posts

296 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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The sad thing is - and I'm guilty of it as well - is that we are now conditioned to think, in any adversity - 'Oooh compensation!'. It's not healthy.

sidicks

25,218 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Simpo Two said:
The sad thing is - and I'm guilty of it as well - is that we are now conditioned to think, in any adversity - 'Oooh compensation!'. It's not healthy.
At the first employer I worked for there was a 4x salary death in service benefit, but 6 x I salary if it occurred on work premises.

I emphasised to my wife that if I started to look at bit ill, she should get me in the car and take me to the office...

Welshbeef

Original Poster:

49,633 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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sidicks said:
At the first employer I worked for there was a 4x salary death in service benefit, but 6 x I salary if it occurred on work premises.

I emphasised to my wife that if I started to look at bit ill, she should get me in the car and take me to the office...
There are huge differences in multiplier for DIS TUPE or simply grade dependant.

But let's assume new employee 3x normally but if they have joined the company pension scheme that is 5 or 6x.


Thanks all for the advice. Horrible and really puts it into perspective how precious life is - possibly one of my worst working days I can remember in a long long time


russ_a

4,727 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Live for the moment, get that Vegas trip booked!

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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russ_a said:
Live for the moment, get that Vegas trip booked!
Decided I'm taking the kids to Lapland/Finland this year and the Mrs has wanted to go to Rome for a long time (birthday present sorted)

DragsterRR

367 posts

138 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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sidicks said:
Simpo Two said:
The sad thing is - and I'm guilty of it as well - is that we are now conditioned to think, in any adversity - 'Oooh compensation!'. It's not healthy.
At the first employer I worked for there was a 4x salary death in service benefit, but 6 x I salary if it occurred on work premises.

I emphasised to my wife that if I started to look at bit ill, she should get me in the car and take me to the office...
Was the same with my father.
My mother always told him if he died at home she would drive to the plant and punt him over the wall.

russ_a

4,727 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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Welshbeef said:
Decided I'm taking the kids to Lapland/Finland this year and the Mrs has wanted to go to Rome for a long time (birthday present sorted)
We've booked a family trip too!

whoami

13,201 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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swerni said:
You actually have people working for you?

jesus
wink
hehe

Chrisgr31

14,291 posts

286 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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swerni said:
You actually have people working for you?
Not any more! biggrin

Sorry OP in bad taste for you

On a serious note you have to do what you think is best, you or your staff know the employeee some may know the family, and their circumstances.