Camera - Why is this so expensive?
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Why is camera so expensive? What is a full-frame camera?
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/cyber-shot-compa...
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/cyber-shot-compa...
It means it uses the same size sensor as an old 35mm film camera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-frame_digital_S...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-frame_digital_S...
You're paying for (1) 35mm sensor (2) 'Carl Zeiss Sonnar' written on the front (3) small size compared to equivalent DSLR.
A mere £2089 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-DSCRX1-Professional-D...
You'll have the satisafction of knowing that, whilst your friends think it's worth about £350, it actually cost 6x as much
A mere £2089 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-DSCRX1-Professional-D...
You'll have the satisafction of knowing that, whilst your friends think it's worth about £350, it actually cost 6x as much
If that seems expensive you should see this - and if it's compact you want maybe wait for the price to drop? And an even bigger sensor than '35mm'/ full frame!
It's pretty compact, but admittedly doesn't have autofocus (in fact you have to set the focus using the focus scale on the lens ring) or zoom, but light metering and EVF are now available, with or without an iPhone. And only c.$47,000 for a basic kit. Cough...
It's pretty compact, but admittedly doesn't have autofocus (in fact you have to set the focus using the focus scale on the lens ring) or zoom, but light metering and EVF are now available, with or without an iPhone. And only c.$47,000 for a basic kit. Cough...
Lostprophet said:
Thanks gents.
So it seems like it's a good camera! I guess by summer this will be a fair chunk cheaper.
I wouldn't bet on that...So it seems like it's a good camera! I guess by summer this will be a fair chunk cheaper.
The DSC-RX1R II can now be pre-ordered for £2.5k
( https://www.parkcameras.com/search/DSC-RX1R%20II )
The RX1 came out in 2013 and still sells for £2k, looking on Amazon the sellers state "1 left in stock", so that could indicate that there isn't a big stockpile of the original version waiting to be sold off cheaply.
Why would you want the RX1R II over the original?
Well for me, of the improvements, 30% faster AF has to be the important one as even the Sony DSLRs are considered a tad slow in to AF (at least compared to Canon/Nikon).
fido said:
same reason why the a7rII is a grand more than an a7R - you pay a big premium for the latest bestest Sony.
Well that and the 42.4mp Back-illuminated sensor which DXO rates the best ever - http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Ratings
, and the 399 focus points, oh and........The same sensor that's now in the little RX1 mk2 - the original RX1R can be had for around £1300 second hand - the 35mm optics are stellar as well.
StuH said:
Well that and the 42.4mp Back-illuminated sensor which DXO rates the best ever - http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Ratings, and the 399 focus points, oh and........
Well I am a happy owner of an A7RII and didn't mind paying the premium .. in fact it's so good that my Leica M is up for sale., and the 399 focus points, oh and........The Sony RX1R is a fairly unique camera, there are very few high quality non-interchangable fixed (non-zooms) lens cameras. Although the AF is slow compared with a DSLR the image quality is very good.
Other similar cameras are the Fuji X100T (£900) and the Leica Q (£2900), both of these include EVF and in the case of the Fuji OVF as well. Each of these cameras has it's merits, but all are very capable cameras.
I've been a long time Fuji X100 user, and did consider the original RX1R, but in the end stayed with Fuji and went for interchangable lens options. I don't need ultra fast AF, so a good mirrorless solution suits me.
But back to the OP, yes it is expensive, but it's fairly unique, and no I wouldn't expect the price to drop much in 6 months time.
Other similar cameras are the Fuji X100T (£900) and the Leica Q (£2900), both of these include EVF and in the case of the Fuji OVF as well. Each of these cameras has it's merits, but all are very capable cameras.
I've been a long time Fuji X100 user, and did consider the original RX1R, but in the end stayed with Fuji and went for interchangable lens options. I don't need ultra fast AF, so a good mirrorless solution suits me.
But back to the OP, yes it is expensive, but it's fairly unique, and no I wouldn't expect the price to drop much in 6 months time.
I owned an RX1 for a while, bit of a bucket list thing, thankfully it didn't drop in value at all whilst I had it. Amazing sensor/lens combo, really was a pleasure to use.
Considering they've fixed all the obvious issues now with the RXRII I would love one, sadly can't really justify it.
Considering they've fixed all the obvious issues now with the RXRII I would love one, sadly can't really justify it.
I tried one out and it felt like any other point and shoot. Yes the optics are great but it just didnt prove to me why it was so expensive.
As for the a7r2.. I bought my a7r for $2000 including the metabones, new. the a7r2 is now $5200 here, they can sit on it. They have put the price up significantly (a recent $1000 rise) for no reason. Sony gear is typically worth a lot less after a year I'll pick one up used.
As for the a7r2.. I bought my a7r for $2000 including the metabones, new. the a7r2 is now $5200 here, they can sit on it. They have put the price up significantly (a recent $1000 rise) for no reason. Sony gear is typically worth a lot less after a year I'll pick one up used.
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