Boxster Spyder / GTS purchase ?
Discussion
So...last couple weeks I have been looking into to get a new Spyder but as suspected been told by Porsche dealer as I'm late to the party the chances of getting one now are looking pretty slim , I have spotted a few for sale used and I wouldn't be against paying a premium to own one but whats for sale is not in my chosen colour and I am pretty fixed on wanting one in white , frustrating as in a position to buy straight away .
Anyway Speaking with the dealer he has offered me a slot on a new GTS which I am half considering , the appeal is I can then spec it how I want it , I have a 981 Boxster 3.4S that I bought used last year ,which is highly specced but has a couple of extras that ordering new I would have specced , my concern is for the extra money I would be paying for the GTS I am not convinced that what I would end up with , wouldnt be a right lot different to what I have already ? as I would get the same colour and likely spec it exactly the same as my current car but just add a couple of extras to it mine is missing and maybe change the hood colour . This was the big Appeal of getting a Spyder with the bigger engine ect was the same car but different/better!
So I either wait it out and see if a Spyder comes up new or used and buy that no question or as second choice go for the GTS but Im not sure how long I have to decide on this as my local only has one slot left . Financially I reckon If I bought a Gts now and kept hold of my current car til Spring and sold it them it would end up costing me around £22k to do the change but as said I am not convinced its money well spent , other thoughts are my car has lost its big chunk of depreciation by the first owner loosing over £20,000 in the first 18 months of him owning it , they actually seem to be advertised for the more than I payed last year which is a nice position to be in but buying new I would likely have to stomach the drive out of showroom depreciation which doesn't really have a great appeal , I have never really looked at the GTs and my local Porsche dealer doesn't have one as a demo so I would be unable to take a look or drive before ordering , so any opinions on this , would a GTS be worth the money over an S or do I hang fire and see what comes up.
Anyway Speaking with the dealer he has offered me a slot on a new GTS which I am half considering , the appeal is I can then spec it how I want it , I have a 981 Boxster 3.4S that I bought used last year ,which is highly specced but has a couple of extras that ordering new I would have specced , my concern is for the extra money I would be paying for the GTS I am not convinced that what I would end up with , wouldnt be a right lot different to what I have already ? as I would get the same colour and likely spec it exactly the same as my current car but just add a couple of extras to it mine is missing and maybe change the hood colour . This was the big Appeal of getting a Spyder with the bigger engine ect was the same car but different/better!
So I either wait it out and see if a Spyder comes up new or used and buy that no question or as second choice go for the GTS but Im not sure how long I have to decide on this as my local only has one slot left . Financially I reckon If I bought a Gts now and kept hold of my current car til Spring and sold it them it would end up costing me around £22k to do the change but as said I am not convinced its money well spent , other thoughts are my car has lost its big chunk of depreciation by the first owner loosing over £20,000 in the first 18 months of him owning it , they actually seem to be advertised for the more than I payed last year which is a nice position to be in but buying new I would likely have to stomach the drive out of showroom depreciation which doesn't really have a great appeal , I have never really looked at the GTs and my local Porsche dealer doesn't have one as a demo so I would be unable to take a look or drive before ordering , so any opinions on this , would a GTS be worth the money over an S or do I hang fire and see what comes up.
Personally I do not think it is worth swapping from 981s to a 981 Gts, also the cost to swap and the money you lose on a new GTS you might as well go pay the extra for the spyder. The Spyder is a pretty safe bet in terms of depreciation and is most likely the last ever convertible na flat6!
You may be able to get a 981 SPYDER with delivery miles for £10-15k overs which imo you won't lose a lot of and may cost you more in the spring/summer
You may be able to get a 981 SPYDER with delivery miles for £10-15k overs which imo you won't lose a lot of and may cost you more in the spring/summer
GT4P said:
Personally I do not think it is worth swapping from 981s to a 981 Gts, also the cost to swap and the money you lose on a new GTS you might as well go pay the extra for the spyder. The Spyder is a pretty safe bet in terms of depreciation and is most likely the last ever convertible na flat6!
You may be able to get a 981 SPYDER with delivery miles for £10-15k overs which imo you won't lose a lot of and may cost you more in the spring/summer
+1You may be able to get a 981 SPYDER with delivery miles for £10-15k overs which imo you won't lose a lot of and may cost you more in the spring/summer
Hi JeffC.
You don't seem convinced yourself that its the best move - must admit I wouldn't make the jump.I would either pay £10K premium (do it now before Spring arrives) or hang fire for a similar interesting iteration of the Spyder or GT4 - but who knows what engine Porsche will be using in the future. I would expect very little depreciation with the 981 Spyder & probably will increase in value (currently rarer than a GT4).
You don't seem convinced yourself that its the best move - must admit I wouldn't make the jump.I would either pay £10K premium (do it now before Spring arrives) or hang fire for a similar interesting iteration of the Spyder or GT4 - but who knows what engine Porsche will be using in the future. I would expect very little depreciation with the 981 Spyder & probably will increase in value (currently rarer than a GT4).
Andrew911 said:
Hi JeffC.
You don't seem convinced yourself that its the best move - must admit I wouldn't make the jump.I would either pay £10K premium (do it now before Spring arrives) or hang fire for a similar interesting iteration of the Spyder or GT4 - but who knows what engine Porsche will be using in the future. I would expect very little depreciation with the 981 Spyder & probably will increase in value (currently rarer than a GT4).
You don't seem convinced yourself that its the best move - must admit I wouldn't make the jump.I would either pay £10K premium (do it now before Spring arrives) or hang fire for a similar interesting iteration of the Spyder or GT4 - but who knows what engine Porsche will be using in the future. I would expect very little depreciation with the 981 Spyder & probably will increase in value (currently rarer than a GT4).
philnotts said:
utgjon said:
philnotts said:
987 Spyder? Keep the 981 Boxster S....
Pretty sure he's referring to the 981 SpyderAs most have said - wait for a Spyder you like , lose the battle , pay the overs and win the long term depreciation war - the Spyder even with £K 10 overs should be a cheaper car in the long run than the GTS - also they are awesome cars - I'm lucky enough to have the pleasure of a 991RS and I have a Spyder coming - I bet I pick the Spyder keys up more than the RS's : it's just such an honest , fun package ; I loved it when I drove it at the PEC .
I think the overs on the GT4 make the Spyder overs look cheap IMHO - either way - only you can decide , but reading your opening post , it would seem you already know that swapping to a GTS may not be the best move. Either way good luck
I think the overs on the GT4 make the Spyder overs look cheap IMHO - either way - only you can decide , but reading your opening post , it would seem you already know that swapping to a GTS may not be the best move. Either way good luck
Edited by RSVP911 on Monday 25th January 20:12
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(Well, apart from owning a 991rs regrettably).
RSVP911 said:
As most have said - wait for a Spyder you like , lose the battle , pay the overs and win the long term depreciation war - the Spyder even with £K 10 overs should be a cheaper car in the long run than the GTS - also they are awesome cars - I'm lucky enough to have the pleasure of a 991RS and I have a Spyder coming - I bet I pick the Spyder keys up more than the RS's : it's just such an honest , fun package ; I loved it when I drove it at the PEC .
I think the overs on the GT4 make the Spyder overs look cheap IMHO - either way - only you can decide , but reading your opening post , it would seem you already know that swapping to a GTS may not be the best move. Either way good luck
Everything RSVP911 said.I think the overs on the GT4 make the Spyder overs look cheap IMHO - either way - only you can decide , but reading your opening post , it would seem you already know that swapping to a GTS may not be the best move. Either way good luck
(Well, apart from owning a 991rs regrettably).
Ditto what others of said.
It seems to me from what you have written that you don't really want to swap to the GTS. By all accounts a very nice car but if you are enjoying your current car I'm not sure it's worth swapping for.
The 981 Spyder is worth swapping to. If you are prepared to pay the premium (the idea of doing so hurts, but you're a long time dead!) I would compromise over the colour. Most would agree that the Spyder looks good in almost any colour (I still need convincing on the Viper Green).
It seems to me from what you have written that you don't really want to swap to the GTS. By all accounts a very nice car but if you are enjoying your current car I'm not sure it's worth swapping for.
The 981 Spyder is worth swapping to. If you are prepared to pay the premium (the idea of doing so hurts, but you're a long time dead!) I would compromise over the colour. Most would agree that the Spyder looks good in almost any colour (I still need convincing on the Viper Green
).Well curiosity got the better of me and I went and had a look at a GTS, very nice car and very nicely specced with buckets and carbon, cost to change was pretty much as I expected but looking at the two cars (mine a few months older but with less miles ) and I concluded as expected just cant see £20,000 between the two ,maybe if I didnt own my car already and was looking at both cars I would have just spent the money and bought the GTS but having my car realistically at £20k less makes the decision slightly different.
Also the one today was PDK which they mostly seem to be and I did the 60 mile drive via some twisty backroads and consciously drove my car hard using the gears in and out the corners and really enjoyed the drive in my manual car I think the PDK really would dilute the enjoyment for me. So think I am gonna hang fire and go with my heart and see if I can get hold of a Spyder at sensible money or be lucky enough to drop onto a cancelled order, if anyone hears of a one please shout and thanks for the input.
Also the one today was PDK which they mostly seem to be and I did the 60 mile drive via some twisty backroads and consciously drove my car hard using the gears in and out the corners and really enjoyed the drive in my manual car I think the PDK really would dilute the enjoyment for me. So think I am gonna hang fire and go with my heart and see if I can get hold of a Spyder at sensible money or be lucky enough to drop onto a cancelled order, if anyone hears of a one please shout and thanks for the input.
JeffC said:
is that a mahoosive spec car or ambitious premium by the dealer?
Boxster Spyder (981)WP0ZZZ98ZGS150255
500 miles
Carrera White Metallic
Black Leather & Alcantara
PCM Navigation
DAB Radio
Mobile Phonr Prep
Heated Seats
Auto Climate Control
Light Design Pack
Auto Dimming Mirrors
Roll Over Bar in Exterior Colour
Black Bi-Xenon Headlights with PDLS
Stitching in Contrast Colour
BOSE
Guards Red Seatbelts
Wheels in Platinum Silver
Carbon Centre Console Trim
Carbon Interior Pack
Tinted Tailights
Outer Door Sill Guards in Carbon
£82,850.00
Ideal world I really wanted solid white but other than the wheel colour I could live with the spec, that must be a fairly hefty premium on that though as the one I specced earlier in the year was similar but unless im mistaken was nothing like that money from memory, will see if I can dig it out.
JeffC said:
PS can you still get on the configurator I tried this morning and it only gave option of the new model.
Yes.Select the 718 base model on the configurator. Top left there's a "model" tab. You'll be able to select Boxster Spyder.
Really difficult to look ahead at possible future values but the Spyder has a lot going for it. Plus we're currently in January - nobody wants a Spyder or indeed any car in January. At least, not January in the UK
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