Jaguar XJ220 auction bargain
Jaguar XJ220 auction bargain
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anonymous-user

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74 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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I read recently in the news that one of the major auction houses recently sold a low mileage Jaguar XJ220 (once valued at £403,000) for just over £85,000. Can anyone remember such a commercial disaster as this car!. I never liked its appearence and thought that Jaguar's decision to drop a huge V12 was a big mistake mistake but to see one sell for what is comparitive peanuts is interesting. I'm sure I could get a Diablo fot that much though!.........
I'll have a hunt around and see if I can find the auction details.

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

288 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Wasnt the XJ220 going to have a v12 or v8 and ended up with the engine out of the metro 6r4 or whatever its called ????

anonymous-user

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74 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Metro 6R4 had a 3 litre V6, i think the XJ200 had a couple of turbos on it to give it some go!

plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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I thought the 6R4 was a Rover 3.5 V8 with two turbos?

Would still love one of them.

Matt.

Podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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I thought the 6R4 was a Rover 3.5 V8 with two turbos?

Would still love one of them.

Matt.



In it's conception, it was proposed that they used a Rover v6 - which was the V8 with 2 cylinders lopped off - but it only produced 220bhp, so they eventually made it a 3 litre and got about 250bhp out of it... gave it 4WD... think it won one major rally under the Group B rules. Later cars made 400bhp, but it was only ever fuel injected - never turbo'd.



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dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

288 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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I was watching them on sky a while ago and they were still wiping the floor with modern stuff like the scooby and cosworth

>> Edited by dennisthemenace on Monday 19th August 10:16

JonRB

78,822 posts

292 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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The Jaguar XJ220 that people put their deposits down for was going to be V12 and 4WD.
By the time Jaguar delivered, it was a V6 twin-turbo and RWD. The market had also collapsed, so many buyers asked for their deposit back.
Instead of agreeing, or just saying that the deposit was forfiet, Jaguar actually tried to sue the buyers to fulfil their contracts and buy the cars. The buyers then counter-sued that the car offered was not the car they had put a deposit down on.

It was all very sad and messy.

Podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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for just over £85,000.


ohh, bargain..! Anyone lend me £70k?

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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The XJ220 had less than confidence inspiring brakes, so legend has it and probably suffers from 'hypercaritus,' something fellow PHer Manu has discussed which affects brands other than Ferrari when they try to go above a certain price bracket with a mega car concept.
However, as an engineering tour de force, little compares. If you listen to Clarkson's 'Born To Be Riled' tape he describes driving one at 200 mph through the Arabian desert in hot pursuit of an F40 and "loping" past with considerable ease!
For me, the shape is just divine and as has been suggested above, people tend to forget/overlook the truly shattering momentum this monster generates - it reminds me of a latter day Bluebird (a la Campbell, not Datsun, I must stress!), what with all those swoops and ducts - fabulous.
I saw one once, just pootling along in a 40 zone and I was mesmerized by it's sheer scale.
I think it's one of those cars that needs to be seen in the metal to swoon effectively!
This would have been a great British leviathan with which to have bestrode The Empire...

plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Agreed, most beautiful looking supercar that side of the Murcielago.

Used to go out with a girl whose father had one, if he drove it to the supermarket it would need 4 parking spaces as it was so long and wide.

Matt.

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Agreed, most beautiful looking supercar that side of the Murcielago.

Used to go out with a girl whose father had one, if he drove it to the supermarket it would need 4 parking spaces as it was so long and wide.

Matt.



Hey Matt,
And you DON'T any more? What you thinkin' bro?

But seriously, did you ever get to go in it? And pray tell, what colour of marking was the beast? Blimey, the knees do tremble.

jeremyc

26,670 posts

304 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Spotted in the wild at Gaydon:

Spooky

347 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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I thought that it was because this particular XJ220 had "minor front damage". At least, that's what it said in August's Classic & Sport Car. Was it the green one?

Animal

5,632 posts

288 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Have seen one in the flesh only once, but it was on the way to the Goodwood FOS one year in the sunshine, with a rather happy old gentleman driver at the helm, who bore a rather uncanny resemblance to Norman Dewis (sp?), the legendary Jag test driver.

Also remember the Clarkson segment on Top Gear about depreciation. After going through some pretty poopy machinery JC introduced the biggest bargain: an XJ220. Demonstrating it's acceleration he pootled along in 3rd at about 50, downshifted and floored it. Alpine unit flew out of the dash and bounced off the transmission tunnel!

Always fancied one after that!

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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Spotted in the wild at Gaydon:




Oh no, I suspect I've suffered a reaction similar in it's dampening impact to that of incontinence.

Cheers Jezza, you've made my day.

P.S. And ooh, doesn't that Vanquish look menacingly potent?

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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P.S. And ooh, doesn't that Vanquish look menacingly potent?



Its got a real PHers grin!!

zertec

499 posts

303 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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You would think that for all that cash they wouldn't have to raid parts bins (at least for easily recognisable parts), though I suppose McLaren did also with the F1.

viperman

956 posts

285 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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who else agrees: THOSE ALLOY WHEELS ON THE XJ220 LOOK LIKE HUB CAPS!

Toffer

1,528 posts

281 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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A couple of years ago the Jaguar dealer at Brentwood had a used XJ220 for sale in the showroom. From memory it was about 95,000 quid and a very clean, low mileage example. I spent about an hour looking at the car. The attention to detail was impeccable, with many handmade components in evidence. For example, have a look at the petrol filler cap...it is beutifully made! (Perhaps Leven were subcontractors! )

The V6 was indeed derived from the Rover V8 and had been developed for the Metro 6R4 and was further substantially modified for use in the XJ220.

In the XJ220 it was 3.5l and had four cam shafts, twin injectors, twin turbochargers, four valves per cylinder and dry sump lubrication. Power was around 500BHP.

Using the V6 instead of the originally planned V12, meant that the original design concept could be shortened by 10 inches. The car was still 6ft 6inches wide though.

The XJ220 was built in Bloxham by a joint venture between Jaguar and TWR. Many of the transmission and suspension components were race derived items.

I think it was Jim Randle at Jaguar who started work on the XJ220 project.

Initially it was not an official Jaguar project but when the Jaguar Board got to hear about it, they gave the project company backing and the prototype car was shown in 1988.

A very special supercar...RESPECT!

PS I don't even like "normal" Jags!!!

The XJ8...the only car to give "Toffer" back ache.

By the way, the dealer in Brentwood was excellent. ...

Should have employed chiropractors instead of mechanics though!!!

cpn

7,760 posts

300 months

Monday 19th August 2002
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That Jag was still at that dealers in Feb this year. I fell out of the pub one night, and saw it over the road. I went back next lunchtime to have a drewl (sp) over it. I seem to remember it was LHD though.