Charging Point Cost!
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I ordered a new Leaf last November and then started the search for a charge point installer.
Found a local company (2 miles away) which had only got their licence to install and I would be their first.
All went well, bit of a learning curve for both of us but assured by the guy who installed that the cost would be no more than that on the Rolec brochure (£185 for a 16A charger).
Install went well apart from having to install an outside antenna to boost the poor mobile reception.
A few weeks later I got the invoice... £496!
The charge point alone was £690 on their invoice. I have looked on several websites and they are approx. £400.
They charged extra for the antenna which I am happy with (£65).
They also charged £70 for a survey, ie. 30 mins visit to have a look to see if fitment was possible.
Discussions are ongoing :-)
What are others paying?
Found a local company (2 miles away) which had only got their licence to install and I would be their first.
All went well, bit of a learning curve for both of us but assured by the guy who installed that the cost would be no more than that on the Rolec brochure (£185 for a 16A charger).
Install went well apart from having to install an outside antenna to boost the poor mobile reception.
A few weeks later I got the invoice... £496!
The charge point alone was £690 on their invoice. I have looked on several websites and they are approx. £400.
They charged extra for the antenna which I am happy with (£65).
They also charged £70 for a survey, ie. 30 mins visit to have a look to see if fitment was possible.
Discussions are ongoing :-)
What are others paying?
ooo000ooo said:
What's the antenna for? FWIW My charge point was £500 and covered by the government grant or renault.
Grant is now £700.The £496 was with the grant so total £1196-£700 grant = £496.
I did look at the national established companies but wanted to use a local company which has backfired on me.
Waiting for them to get back to me.
Count yourself lucky OP. As an update to this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... we need to not only install 2nr commercial 3 phase rapid charge units & all the associated gubbins but:
1. install another one 200m away because the main user forgot about half his fleet. To be fair it is another operation but this is a central corporate drive led by our CEO and that other operation is based in the warehouse he manages for me.
2. adapt the 1000 amp LV panel as even though there is enough spare power there are no spare ways unless we add another cubicle and some more switch fuses. Hopefully it's a form 4 board but that remains to be seen. If not that will require a Sunday night shut down, with a full business resilience plan stood up if we are not able to start service at 04:00 on Monday morning. The last shut down of the HV side for periodic testing required the CIO on site to guarantee all the IT would come back up.
1. install another one 200m away because the main user forgot about half his fleet. To be fair it is another operation but this is a central corporate drive led by our CEO and that other operation is based in the warehouse he manages for me.
2. adapt the 1000 amp LV panel as even though there is enough spare power there are no spare ways unless we add another cubicle and some more switch fuses. Hopefully it's a form 4 board but that remains to be seen. If not that will require a Sunday night shut down, with a full business resilience plan stood up if we are not able to start service at 04:00 on Monday morning. The last shut down of the HV side for periodic testing required the CIO on site to guarantee all the IT would come back up.
Thanks, that's a reasonable figure self funding.
The unit can be bought new on the internet for approx. £400
https://www.yesss.co.uk/heating-ventilation-c5/ev-...
Must be possible to get it cheaper.
They charged me £690!
The unit can be bought new on the internet for approx. £400
https://www.yesss.co.uk/heating-ventilation-c5/ev-...
Must be possible to get it cheaper.
They charged me £690!
s111dpc said:
I have a Rolec 32a unit being fitted next month at £315 (£195 for the charger) including installation which entails lifting floor boards and carpets the length of the house to get power from the domestic unit. On that basis I think your £496 is taking the mick a bit.
Thanks s111dpc.Looking at the larger installation companies their £185 charge includes cabling, fitting, etc...
Hi, I'll be careful what I say as it's always difficult without knowing the full story but... as a Rolec Installer of EV Chargepoints there's a few comments on here that are a bit misleading.
Firstly you're not comparing like-for-like when referring to a self-funded install of a Rolec for £500. You can go to a wholesaler and purchase a Rolec charger in a box for roughly £320-500 (depending on model type) including VAT and if you have a friendly electrician and simple install then you could fit for £90-200 depending on call out/survey/hourly rate etc
But in order to get the grant we need to install a remote monitoring meter (interesting to see a comment about CM approval, we're only allowed if we provide evidence of poor phone signal) we'd then manage data to OLEV for a 3 year period. The meter costs money, the data costs an annual fee, the management costs money etc so you're looking at between £600-700 for the charger plus monitor (with no extra antenna etc)
Then we have to pay in-house or sub-contracted electrician (if you're miles away) who can't just be an approved electrician, they need to be SELECT/NAPIT/NICEIC approved as they must product a install certificate and have independent qualification for Inspection and testing. We then have to offer a 3 year warranty for parts instead of the normal 1 year warranty.
You don't need any of the above if you go out a buy it yourself and are fine if it doesn't work after a year.
Our typical installs can be £900-1,200 to do all of the above but minus the grant and you'd be paying £200-500, so same price as you'd pay doing it yourself but with added support?
(all above is based on a 32amp unit but a 16amp unit is only a fraction cheaper £10 I think from memory)
Firstly you're not comparing like-for-like when referring to a self-funded install of a Rolec for £500. You can go to a wholesaler and purchase a Rolec charger in a box for roughly £320-500 (depending on model type) including VAT and if you have a friendly electrician and simple install then you could fit for £90-200 depending on call out/survey/hourly rate etc
But in order to get the grant we need to install a remote monitoring meter (interesting to see a comment about CM approval, we're only allowed if we provide evidence of poor phone signal) we'd then manage data to OLEV for a 3 year period. The meter costs money, the data costs an annual fee, the management costs money etc so you're looking at between £600-700 for the charger plus monitor (with no extra antenna etc)
Then we have to pay in-house or sub-contracted electrician (if you're miles away) who can't just be an approved electrician, they need to be SELECT/NAPIT/NICEIC approved as they must product a install certificate and have independent qualification for Inspection and testing. We then have to offer a 3 year warranty for parts instead of the normal 1 year warranty.
You don't need any of the above if you go out a buy it yourself and are fine if it doesn't work after a year.
Our typical installs can be £900-1,200 to do all of the above but minus the grant and you'd be paying £200-500, so same price as you'd pay doing it yourself but with added support?
(all above is based on a 32amp unit but a 16amp unit is only a fraction cheaper £10 I think from memory)
Edited by PKLD on Wednesday 27th January 15:07
Interesting PKLD.
I think because the installer hadn't done one before they themselves were not aware of the full cost and what was needed to be done to obtain the grant.
However, not making me aware of the £70 for the survey, charging £690 for the charging unit and also making me believe that £185 is the maximum I would pay is taking the mick a little.
I think because the installer hadn't done one before they themselves were not aware of the full cost and what was needed to be done to obtain the grant.
However, not making me aware of the £70 for the survey, charging £690 for the charging unit and also making me believe that £185 is the maximum I would pay is taking the mick a little.
GreatGranny said:
Interesting PKLD.
I think because the installer hadn't done one before they themselves were not aware of the full cost and what was needed to be done to obtain the grant.
However, not making me aware of the £70 for the survey, charging £690 for the charging unit and also making me believe that £185 is the maximum I would pay is taking the mick a little.
We often have to site-survey to avoid your scenario, and we don't charge for surveys as a company choice because we'd rather see it in person to quote accurately than find ourselves out of pocket or trying to ask the customer for more.I think because the installer hadn't done one before they themselves were not aware of the full cost and what was needed to be done to obtain the grant.
However, not making me aware of the £70 for the survey, charging £690 for the charging unit and also making me believe that £185 is the maximum I would pay is taking the mick a little.
The problem is that the 'fixed prices' advertised is difficult to achieve without it being a very straight forward installation so other costs can creep in - much better to properly assess and explain what those are e.g. new mini-DB if your consumer unit is full, signal booster, amour cabling run, lifting mono block etc...
That's why I'm a little annoyed.
They came out to have a look.
Seemed satisfied that all was straight forward. used the existing RCD, cabling from one side of a single garage to the other, max. 10m then just fixing unit to outside single skin wall.
Their labour along was £357 (£35 per hr)
They came out to have a look.
Seemed satisfied that all was straight forward. used the existing RCD, cabling from one side of a single garage to the other, max. 10m then just fixing unit to outside single skin wall.
Their labour along was £357 (£35 per hr)
I paid a big fat ZERO for a BMW "Pure" Wall charger including full installation. Will charge either my i8 or i3 at up to 32Amps for the former. BMW freebie offer currently. The install was carried out by Schneider Electric which after a few false starts finally did a very professional installation but I guess that is all down luck on who you get turn up at your door step.
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