Lightroom vs apple Photos with Flickr

[kentmotorcompany]

Hi,

Very new to grown up photography.


Ive done a fair bit of experimenting and even managed to get a few shots which I'm quite happy with. Same again with editing, lots of experimenting and few results that I'm pleased with for my level of experience .

From reading on here a flickr account seems to be well recommended and have now got one and all my library is uploaded.

Now heres where I'm having trouble. Flickr only seems to have the UNedited version of my photos. Reading online this is because "photos" app (not to be confused with the older iPhoto or Aperture apps) only displays the edited version on my mac, but keeps the original unedited version as the file. Which what is uploaded to Flickr.

I'm wondering if Photoshop LR will solve this and wondered if someone here has similar experience?

I guess many of you will know LR very well but how does it compare to what Im used to?

What are the cost options etc?

[Gold]

Not familiar with Photos but used to use iPhoto - it should be uploading the edited version. Both Photos and Lightroom are non-destructive editors, acting as you say keeping an original version and applying edits allowing you to always undo any changes you make.

If however you are shooting RAW or indeed doing anything more than simple edits on a relatively low number of photos, Lightroom kicks Photos out of the park. The photographers subscription to Lightroom & Photoshop is about £7 a month and well worth it.

[kentmotorcompany]

Gold said:

Not familiar with Photos but used to use iPhoto - it should be uploading the edited version. Both Photos and Lightroom are non-destructive editors, acting as you say keeping an original version and applying edits allowing you to always undo any changes you make.

If however you are shooting RAW or indeed doing anything more than simple edits on a relatively low number of photos, Lightroom kicks Photos out of the park. The photographers subscription to Lightroom & Photoshop is about £7 a month and well worth it.

Looking on a couple of forums saying the editing software is to blame, Flickr has no influence over what is uploaded. Hence Im thinking about moving over to a different one.

Shame because so far Photos seems to do a decent enough job for free.

Ive not tried shooting in RAW yet, that'll be the next thing I try once I'm happy with my editing a online storage.

[steveatesh]

OP, Lightorom will interact directly with Flickr so after you have edited your photo and are happy with it you can export directly to Flickr (Facebook too if you like that type of thing).

LR keeps track of what you have uploaded so if you go back to the image and alter it in LR it also amends the copy in Flickr too. It really is simple and comprehensive.

As an editing tool it is in a different league to Photos and has thousands of tutorials on YouTube to follow. Obviously in addition it will let you move to Panoramic shots and also HDR when you feel up to it.

If you don't need photoshop then you can get a stand alone perpetual licence for LR for around £100. I do nearly all my work in LR, only needing a pixel editor like Photoshop very very infrequently.

You can try it for 30 days free, I suggest you give it a whirl and see how it goes.

[kentmotorcompany]

Thanks. Thats really what i needed to know.

Even if I don't have to spend any £ yet, Ill still need to invest the time and want to be sure what I'm getting into.

[Dan_1981]

is Lightroom more advanced than Elements? Or offer differing tools?

[K12beano]

Dan_1981 said:

is Lightroom more advanced than Elements? Or offer differing tools?

Sort of yes, and yes.

LR strengths are to take you from raw file through organisation, post-processing to outputs (web, slideshow, print). It does it all in a reasonably intuitive way too (but there's plenty of material on the interwebnetwideworldthingy)

Elements will go a bit further in terms of design work and manipulation: it's more a "focussed" Photoshop package. It lets you do more clever "stuff" that you might want layers to achieve.

Now, with panoramas and blending incorporated in LR, it's a pretty much complete photographers tool where you probably don't "need" PS/PSE.

[Dan_1981]

Thanks for that - I use Elements at the moment but rarely get very advanced.

[kentmotorcompany]

I'm currently "enjoying" a 30 day free trial of LR CC (Creative Cloud which includes PS).

I took a few shots yesterday and edited them in LR. Now what is showing in my Flickr page is still the unedited version?

[Mr Will]

kentmotorcompany said:

I'm currently "enjoying" a 30 day free trial of LR CC (Creative Cloud which includes PS).

I took a few shots yesterday and edited them in LR. Now what is showing in my Flickr page is still the unedited version?

Did you "Export" them after you finished editing? Lightroom is non-destructive, which means it stores the changes separately and never saves over the original image. The changes are only baked-in to the image once you export it (which creates a new copy).

[kentmotorcompany]

Mr Will said:

Did you "Export" them after you finished editing? Lightroom is non-destructive, which means it stores the changes separately and never saves over the original image. The changes are only baked-in to the image once you export it (which creates a new copy).

No I didn't. Thanks