Looking at 993 C2 - wide or narrow body?

Looking at 993 C2 - wide or narrow body?

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mikees

Original Poster:

2,806 posts

185 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Hi guys, couldn't find this with search or google on here.

Views on which to go with and price difference.


Not many private sale 993 about at reasonable prices


Cheers
Mike

Wozy68

5,429 posts

183 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Always NB for me as I think the proportions are just right, the WB is just ...... Well, too wide biggrin

roygarth

2,674 posts

261 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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A narrow body C2 would be my first choice as quickest and has better, more nimble handling than all the others. For me the narrow body is a purer, better design.

mollytherocker

14,384 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Price diff is around 15k I guess.

Narrow body is lighter, more nimble and faster.

But, it cant be denied that the widebody looks fabulous, especially from the rear!

Orangecurry

7,618 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Price diff seems to be around 40k, but as you say finding a good one is difficult which would mean you may have little choice.

For me the WB looks 'wrong' in many ways - apart from being too fat at the rear, the sills stick out like two sore lips, and the rear bumper/PU has an extra 'step' in it to make the dimensions match - all too clumsy for my eyes.

The fact that the suspension underpinnings on both cars are exactly the same, and the wheels at the back simply stick out further to line-up with the bodywork (either have a 25mm spacer or a different offset) makes the engineering 'wrong' as well.

mollytherocker

14,384 posts

222 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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40k, really? I must be out of touch!

mikees

Original Poster:

2,806 posts

185 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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As you say limited stock so not much choice.




Mike

Koln-RS

4,030 posts

225 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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I much prefer the simplicity of the narrow bodied 993. Price differences between the narrow and wide bods (like for like) is about 20%ish.

Originality is key, and this lovely example caught my eye

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Edited by Koln-RS on Sunday 31st January 18:36

mikees

Original Poster:

2,806 posts

185 months

Sunday 31st January 2016
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Koln-RS said:
I much prefer the simplicity of the narrow bodied 993. Price differences between the narrow and wide bods (like for like) is about 20%ish.

Originality is key, and this lovely example caught my eye

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Edited by Koln-RS on Sunday 31st January 18:36
Ha ha - are you here all week? ;-)

Iain-304kz

8 posts

119 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Just seen Paul Stephens has taken a deposit on the wide body C2 in blue at £69k. Together with JZM selling the silver C4s at over £80k the wide body 993s still seem to be shifting. IMO they are the best looking 911 made....

mikees

Original Poster:

2,806 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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So condition is everything. Would a few years of serve receipts from a not widely know specialist make a diff if a recognised specialist has PPI'ed and is happy.

Mike

Iain-304kz

8 posts

119 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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My view is that with these cars at 20 years old the most important facet is a full service history with all the stamps in the service record. It's quite common for there to be OPC stamps for the first few years or so but after that I would think it is quite normal to have indies carrying out the servicing. If it has been well looked after in terms of servicing then it should have been looked after! Does anyone think that for a 20 year old car you need all the service receipts with the stamps setting out all the work done?

mollytherocker

14,384 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Iain-304kz said:
My view is that with these cars at 20 years old the most important facet is a full service history with all the stamps in the service record. It's quite common for there to be OPC stamps for the first few years or so but after that I would think it is quite normal to have indies carrying out the servicing. If it has been well looked after in terms of servicing then it should have been looked after! Does anyone think that for a 20 year old car you need all the service receipts with the stamps setting out all the work done?
Stamps are fine but only mean oil and filters.

What you want are invoices for major work done recently, addressing the usual age related 993 issues.

kitesurfer2

186 posts

186 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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I agree. A service book of stamps means little in terms of what has been done.

Chris-mac

61 posts

116 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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My C4 has a service book full of stamps from OPC's in the early years and later indys but the real story is told in the binder full of receipts everything from a wiper blade or a battery to a full suspension upgrade or cam cover gasket replacement. Spending a bit of time piecing together what has been done and when not only tells you about the car it also tells you about the owner which in turn tells you more about the car and how it's been loved or not!!

Back on original topic, I prefer the wide body but bought the right narrow one for the right price and have never looked back, I wouldn't swap my sorted narrow for an unknown wide, even with the increased value potential, they are all increasing in value faster than the average man can afford, I probably couldn't justify buying mine now with an estimated value of £50k+ but luckily for me it's sat in the garage waiting for the next half decent day.

Edited by Chris-mac on Tuesday 2nd February 22:33

mollytherocker

14,384 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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Yep, I have 2 full files of receipts and the scarres to prove it!

200Plus Club

11,833 posts

291 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2016
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My big fat gorgeous ass!

Orangecurry

7,618 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Rear wiper is about to break - blade is sitting on the arm.

Spoiler is stuck in the 'deployed' position.

I reckon I could fix all that for oooooooh a monkey?




tongue out

Jitstar

93 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Went the high mileage, lots of specialist service history route last year, as it was what I could afford - which ended up being a narrow body C2.

Would echo the above - buy on service history/money it's had spent on it, and buy the best you can afford. As for the wiper, I did the wiper delete, cleaner looks, and no more broken wiper anxiety at £150 a pop!

Steering rack leak would be something I would also check - 20+ years old - I think many are due a leak, based on what the rack specialist told me.

Lambojim

691 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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My wide bodied C2S. Had a narrow body C2 years ago and loved it but always wanted the wide body - the looks did it for me, I couldn't tell any difference in the driving experience - both are sublime if you have a good one. I think it's one of the best looking cars ever made. I'm biased I guess.