The 993 GT2 driven by Mr Morgan

[v8ksn]

https://youtu.be/Rf34n2rxzUI

Some of you may recognise the owner too

Edited by v8ksn on Tuesday 2nd February 23:27

[Guybrush]

Enjoyed that. Every time I think of a 993 GT2 I get a coulda woulda shoulda feeling...coulda got one much cheaper a few years ago.

[fredt]

Awesome car, love the 993 GT2 and the RS.

Supervery lame video though, not really the car for slowly bambling down stty country lanes

[nxi20]

I was a bit shocked when we went scouting the locations too, but as it turned out the GT2 handled the terrain better than the Focus ST diesel estate they were using as the crew car. I don't know why they included so much of it driving on the Hardknott Pass when we did a fair bit of filming on some roads that had better surfaces & you could at least get out of second

I had a text from Charles just after the video was put up asking if they could do another one of it on a track. As it's a bit loud for UK tracks, I've offered them a couple of dates over the summer at Spa & the 'ring so watch this space.

This is a 'follow' video of it on the 'ring last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je3iVRoI49U

[v8ksn]

nxi20 said:

I was a bit shocked when we went scouting the locations too, but as it turned out the GT2 handled the terrain better than the Focus ST diesel estate they were using as the crew car. I don't know why they included so much of it driving on the Hardknott Pass when we did a fair bit of filming on some roads that had better surfaces & you could at least get out of second

I had a text from Charles just after the video was put up asking if they could do another one of it on a track. As it's a bit loud for UK tracks, I've offered them a couple of dates over the summer at Spa & the 'ring so watch this space.

This is a 'follow' video of it on the 'ring last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je3iVRoI49U

Its a beautiful car Nick, thanks for sharing it so he could make this video.....its the closest I will ever get to owning one

[nxi20]

v8ksn said:

Its a beautiful car Nick, thanks for sharing it so he could make this video.....its the closest I will ever get to owning one

Thanks, I think so too If I had to choose which of my 911s to keep, this would be the one.

Because it's not a "real" one (ie. wrong VIN), it's not worth £500K+. To me, this is a good thing because it can be driven & enjoyed as opposed to sitting in storage like the majority do. I've done over 20K miles in it since I bought it in 2012, including 2 big trips down to Italy. It's still possible to "make" a GT2; all that's required is the bravery to chop up a perfectly good Turbo & the wherewithal to buy all the right bits. It not being a real one allows you to do things like change to more modern dampers, using a lighter & better made exhaust & changing out the rear screen for polycarbonate without worrying about impacting values. I've been told by a couple of people that have driven mine in addition to several "real" GT2s that they would sooner drive mine. Make of that what you will...

[hondansx]

Pretty sure Harry Metcalfe said the same thing, as he has a converted Turbo also.

Look forward to watching the vid when i get home.

[TB993tt]

nxi20 said:

Thanks, I think so too If I had to choose which of my 911s to keep, this would be the one.

Because it's not a "real" one (ie. wrong VIN), it's not worth £500K+. To me, this is a good thing because it can be driven & enjoyed as opposed to sitting in storage like the majority do. I've done over 20K miles in it since I bought it in 2012, including 2 big trips down to Italy. It's still possible to "make" a GT2; all that's required is the bravery to chop up a perfectly good Turbo & the wherewithal to buy all the right bits. It not being a real one allows you to do things like change to more modern dampers, using a lighter & better made exhaust & changing out the rear screen for polycarbonate without worrying about impacting values. I've been told by a couple of people that have driven mine in addition to several "real" GT2s that they would sooner drive mine. Make of that what you will...

Nick, may I ask a couple of questions about your lovely rep ?

Are those the correct Speedline mags, the centres look a bit dark coloured ?
Does it have GT2/RS rear calipers ?
Do you have inner wheel arch liners, are those custom fabricated ?
Do you have all the GT2/RS rubbers/links/mounts in the chassis and which shockers/springs do you run ?
Do you run an LSD ?
Have you weighed it, what it it come in at ?

TIA

[nxi20]

TB993tt said:

Nick, may I ask a couple of questions about your lovely rep ?

Are those the correct Speedline mags, the centres look a bit dark coloured ?
Does it have GT2/RS rear calipers ?
Do you have inner wheel arch liners, are those custom fabricated ?
Do you have all the GT2/RS rubbers/links/mounts in the chassis and which shockers/springs do you run ?
Do you run an LSD ?
Have you weighed it, what it it come in at ?

TIA

No the Speedline mags are unavailable except s/h - Fressinger have a set for €30K + VAT
Mine are correct GT2 size & offset 2 piece with anodised outers for €3600 - it's a practical car that's used, not a museum piece.

AFAIK, the calipers are the Turbo Big Reds on both this & the real GT2 I looked at. It uses 322mm discs all round.

Arch liners - unavailable and so these were lovingly fabricated by me. Not perfect but they do the job.

Engine mounts are RS, everything else is stock. It's a road car so I didn't want a rattly monster. The dampers are KW with custom damping & spring rates

It does run an LSD

Last time it was weighed, it was around 1310Kg

[TB993tt]

nxi20 said:

No the Speedline mags are unavailable except s/h - Fressinger have a set for €30K + VAT
Mine are correct GT2 size & offset 2 piece with anodised outers for €3600 - it's a practical car that's used, not a museum piece.

AFAIK, the calipers are the Turbo Big Reds on both this & the real GT2 I looked at. It uses 322mm discs all round.

Arch liners - unavailable and so these were lovingly fabricated by me. Not perfect but they do the job.

Engine mounts are RS, everything else is stock. It's a road car so I didn't want a rattly monster. The dampers are KW with custom damping & spring rates

It does run an LSD

Last time it was weighed, it was around 1310Kg

The wheels look great and and the Mags just crack so wise choice, GT2 has bigger rear calipers from the RS, worth doing when the old ones get tatty, not expensive.

On the suspension bits, I can recommend the turbo S kit which Porsche did for the 993 turbo, it is RS/GT2 parts which comprehensively change the chassis. I run this kit with Bilstein PSS10 and it is a fantastic set up and really works with 2WD. It makes a standard turbo feel lardy and it is totally daily driveable, I have driven all over Europe many times with it (including naggy passenger/s). Still available as a kit if you ever felt the need to sharpen it up. You would need to run it with your KWs as the shocks/springs it comes with are made for billiard German surfaces !
Details FYI

[nxi20]

TB993tt said:

The wheels look great and and the Mags just crack so wise choice, GT2 has bigger rear calipers from the RS, worth doing when the old ones get tatty, not expensive.

On the suspension bits, I can recommend the turbo S kit which Porsche did for the 993 turbo, it is RS/GT2 parts which comprehensively change the chassis. I run this kit with Bilstein PSS10 and it is a fantastic set up and really works with 2WD. It makes a standard turbo feel lardy and it is totally daily driveable, I have driven all over Europe many times with it (including naggy passenger/s). Still available as a kit if you ever felt the need to sharpen it up. You would need to run it with your KWs as the shocks/springs it comes with are made for billiard German surfaces !
Details FYI

Cheers, will need to look into that

[jonny finance]

Hi Nick

I'm seriously tempted to follow your path and GT2 a 993 Turbo with the help of some heavy duty specialist expertise (maybe 9M/F Sport) - what approximate costs did you face?? Appreciate there are many possibilities and variables involved but I would love to do a decent job with a similar end result to what you have achieved..
Please PM if preferred - Or did you have a thread running when building?

Many thanks

Edited by jonny finance on Wednesday 3rd February 16:18

[nxi20]

PM sent

[monthefish]

nxi20 said:

v8ksn said:

Its a beautiful car Nick, thanks for sharing it so he could make this video.....its the closest I will ever get to owning one

Thanks, I think so too If I had to choose which of my 911s to keep, this would be the one.

Because it's not a "real" one (ie. wrong VIN), it's not worth £500K+. To me, this is a good thing because it can be driven & enjoyed as opposed to sitting in storage like the majority do. I've done over 20K miles in it since I bought it in 2012, including 2 big trips down to Italy. It's still possible to "make" a GT2; all that's required is the bravery to chop up a perfectly good Turbo & the wherewithal to buy all the right bits. It not being a real one allows you to do things like change to more modern dampers, using a lighter & better made exhaust & changing out the rear screen for polycarbonate without worrying about impacting values. I've been told by a couple of people that have driven mine in addition to several "real" GT2s that they would sooner drive mine. Make of that what you will...

I was exactly of the same mind.
I had a 996 turbo with GT2 kit and I felt I could drive and enjoy it without any real concern for resale/residuals, which certainly wouldn't have been the case had I had a real GT2.

I would LOVE a 993 turbo GT2 replica.

[rs200evo]

Real ones are now in the stratosphere so makes sense to see a usable recreation

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=...

[monthefish]

Good video.


(Looked like the front splitter would have taken a pounding on those roads though..)

[Digga]

Nice video. Personally, I think the car does suit the terrain.

Watching that reminds me of a group of us on a climbing trip, whilst studying for our A-levels. There were four of us, with big 70l rucksacks, crammed into my mate's mum's Nissan Micro 1.0. Two of us had to get out, shoulder our packs and walk up the passes because the poor little car just didn't have the grunt.

[graemel]

One of the best looking Porsche's of all time

[Digga]

graemel said:

One of the best looking Porsche's of all time

Agreed, I've seen two in the metal (and pop-riveted arch brows), one was a genuine and the other was, I'm fairly sure, a really nice turbo-based recreation, which was silver with the gold cup style multi-spoke alloy split-rims, which looked absolutely perfect.

[hunter 66]

Remember when GT Classics had two for sale one at 74 k ( Silver ) and at 76k ( Black ), it is the car that luckily I have done the most race miles in as well , all great memories ...
Here is our White one in the Zolder 24 hrs 2006 in its final wide track body ....