Alarming news from the US re track cars...

[irocfan]

where the US leads, Europe follows.... well let's certainly hope not!

https://www.sema.org/news/2016/02/08/epa-seeks-to-...

[TTwiggy]

Seems a rather vague piece of legislation. where does it leave cars like Caterham Sevens and Elises/Exiges?

[Paul Dishman]

I can't see that being enforced easily

[irocfan]

Paul Dishman said:

I can't see that being enforced easily

easily? Maybe not - overzealously? Well with the sort people who'd like to see this happen one can only hazard a guess...

[Crush]

irocfan said:

easily? Maybe not - overzealously? Well with the sort people who'd like to see this happen one can only hazard a guess...

I can imagine the military arm EPA rounding up track enthusiasts and putting them into re-education camps

Actually I shouldn't laugh

[Northern Munkee]

Eventually all fun will be sucked out of life by legislation.

[DrDeAtH]

I don't see that piece of legislation working in the USA, the amount of people who modify their cars to go racing is huge, especially when drag racing is their national sport....

[danllama]

I will add EPA to my s list.

[Adrian W]

Aren't Porsche"s and Corvett's a bit popular in the US

[chris watton]

"The EPA is out of control – now they want to ban hobby race cars"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/02/09/the-epa-is-o...

[RDMcG]

Seems like it is only for modified cars.

Thus a Caterham or Elise or a GT3 or the like that is road legal and not modified for track would seem to be exempt from the legislation. Surely it would only apply when the emissions level is changed?

How it applies to a race car such as (say) a Porsche GT3 Cup Car that is not legal for the road is not clear to me.

[loose cannon]

How will it effect the resto mod hot rod scene in the states ? Surely a huge industry over the pond

[davepoth]

loose cannon said:

How will it effect the resto mod hot rod scene in the states ? Surely a huge industry over the pond

Anything pre 1975 isn't subject to emissions regulation (based on California, which I think is strictest), so you'll still be able to do whatever the hell you want with any car from before then. Of course, the bits that bolt to those will also bolt to a lot of cars built after 1975...

[danllama]

Having done more reading since I got home, this must be a joke, surely?

[vtecyo]

This from the country that produced and sold petrol Hummers.

[maffski]

http://gas2.org/2016/02/14/the-low-down-on-the-epa...

The short of it. The new rules aren't new rules, just a 'tidy up' to close a loop hole. These modifications have been illegal in the US since the clean air act in 77 but the EPA only enforces them for vehicles on the road and has no intention of changing that.

[handpaper]

maffski said:

http://gas2.org/2016/02/14/the-low-down-on-the-epa...

The short of it. The new rules aren't new rules, just a 'tidy up' to close a loop hole. These modifications have been illegal in the US since the clean air act in 77 but the EPA only enforces them for vehicles on the road and has no intention of changing that.

Selectively enforced legislation is evil.

This is almost as bad:

Article said:

The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation ...

ETA :
http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/images/EPA-Memo.pdf

Edited by handpaper on Tuesday 16th February 17:56

[toerag]

EPA fines PFI Speed for selling (not fitting) piggyback ECUs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsX5c1A9_ls

Edited by toerag on Friday 11th June 11:15