Bloody kids..what to do??
Discussion
Over the last few years the problem of kids being arseholes has become progressively worse.
Over the last few weeks and particularly this week it has become much much worse.
On monday, I was driving home from work and as I turned into my street was confronted by a group of maybe 15 8-13year olds who were just standing around in the road. They reluctantly moved their scummy arses after giving me a mouthful of abuse because I dared to try and use the road.
These groups have become more and more common around the area. So much so that there are a large number of the elderly population too scared to venture out while kids are at home.
Why should kids make anybody too scared to venture outside their homes, this makes my blood boil.
I have just witnesses a group of 5 kids about 10-12yo jumping around on garage roofs, the garages are at the bottom of my garden, and close to where I park my car. When they had got bored of jumping around they got down and decided it would be a good idea to try and break the window in one of them. After several attempts they gave up, but left a couple of nasty marks in the glass.
The problem of kids on the garage roofs isn't a new one, its one that has been going on for years and has been complained about to both the council and the police for all that time. Unfortunatly, the complaining went on for years and the lack of action from the council and police meant that people stopped complaining. And then the coucil shot themselves in the foot. The erected street lighting, handy at night, when they work, but not so handy because along with the lighting they erected a fence, which makes access to the roofs easier. All my neighbours gave up complaining in dismay that they would make things easier for them
Since then cars have damaged, roofs have been torn off. This seems to be the passtime of choice at one time or another for most kids round here.
So, short of stringing all the kids up, what can be done to stop this crap?
There is no reason for the kids to be bored, there are 3 football parks within a safe 5 minute walk, a large play area 300yards from my house, but they would still rather be a nuisance.
I spotted one who seems to think he is a young thug. Baseball cap, heavy swagger, bout 9 years old, thinks he it 'The Man'. Needs bringing down a notch or two.
What can be done about him??
TIA
Stuart.
Over the last few weeks and particularly this week it has become much much worse.
On monday, I was driving home from work and as I turned into my street was confronted by a group of maybe 15 8-13year olds who were just standing around in the road. They reluctantly moved their scummy arses after giving me a mouthful of abuse because I dared to try and use the road.
These groups have become more and more common around the area. So much so that there are a large number of the elderly population too scared to venture out while kids are at home.
Why should kids make anybody too scared to venture outside their homes, this makes my blood boil. I have just witnesses a group of 5 kids about 10-12yo jumping around on garage roofs, the garages are at the bottom of my garden, and close to where I park my car. When they had got bored of jumping around they got down and decided it would be a good idea to try and break the window in one of them. After several attempts they gave up, but left a couple of nasty marks in the glass.
The problem of kids on the garage roofs isn't a new one, its one that has been going on for years and has been complained about to both the council and the police for all that time. Unfortunatly, the complaining went on for years and the lack of action from the council and police meant that people stopped complaining. And then the coucil shot themselves in the foot. The erected street lighting, handy at night, when they work, but not so handy because along with the lighting they erected a fence, which makes access to the roofs easier. All my neighbours gave up complaining in dismay that they would make things easier for them
Since then cars have damaged, roofs have been torn off. This seems to be the passtime of choice at one time or another for most kids round here. So, short of stringing all the kids up, what can be done to stop this crap?
There is no reason for the kids to be bored, there are 3 football parks within a safe 5 minute walk, a large play area 300yards from my house, but they would still rather be a nuisance.
I spotted one who seems to think he is a young thug. Baseball cap, heavy swagger, bout 9 years old, thinks he it 'The Man'. Needs bringing down a notch or two.
What can be done about him??
TIA
Stuart.
Grease the garage roof and street light?
I had some drunken kid playing chicken in front of me a few weeks ago. If I stop the kid can walk up and cause damage, or just be in a mindset to do it again. He didnt appreciate it when I dropped from 4th to 2nd and opened the throttle, making a nice loud noise from the exhaust and charging him. He got out of my way though ^_^
I had some drunken kid playing chicken in front of me a few weeks ago. If I stop the kid can walk up and cause damage, or just be in a mindset to do it again. He didnt appreciate it when I dropped from 4th to 2nd and opened the throttle, making a nice loud noise from the exhaust and charging him. He got out of my way though ^_^
I've no idea, though I think the "I'll sue if you touch me"/"I know my rights"/"Whatcha gonna do?"/"It's a free country" attitude needs eradicating. It's a free country so far as yourself is concerned, but not when it comes to anything involving others, which, let's face it, is always an issue.
On of my housemates repairs and restores classic Land Rovers as a part-time job/hobby, and as a result we'll have up to 4 of them on the drive or road outside at any one time. Recently the local kids have started pulling bits off them. Last time we caught one in the act (broad daylight) and asked him why. He said "I can do what I want". We told him he couldn't, then his hideous chavvy mother turned up and asked him why he needed so many Land Rovers and gave some poorly-reasoned crap filtered from ITV news (probably) about 4x4s 'killing the planet', and told him to 'get a Nova', then buggered off.
It's this complete inability of people to sequentially show respect to others or mind their own business that's becoming the crux of the problem, and it's the parents fault for not setting a responsibility.
I hate to sound like a Nazi, but some people just don't deserve to be parents. I find it so unfortunate when I see reports of wonderful loving couples with steady jobs who'd make great parents but can't conceive, and then you see vast armies of chav kids born to some undeserving hag who just has them because she likes kids, shovelling them full of hyperactivity-inducing junk food, slapping them at the slightest provocation, spouting crap that defends them and 'their rights' at all costs and generally setting a very poor example.
The thing is, these people have been engineered by economic mismanagement over the years. It used to be that you thought about such things and had kids when you could afford to look after them, hence lots of hard-working families, and the harder you worked, the more you could provide. This ethic continued through to the children.
Then Labour ruined the economy in the '70s, putting millions of people out of work largely due to massively outdated industry. Thatcher didn't do much better in clearing up the mess, but now we find ourselves arrived in Blair's Britain.
Blair's Britain, where the sort of hard-working family who'd previously provide the country with its next generation are now working too hard to meet each other, and even if they did, pay too much in terms of tax. And then you get people too lazy/uneducated to work just sitting on their arses squeezing kids out habitually. The miscreant fathers up and leave, and these families just spread out uncontrolled.
I fear that in the future we're going to have an ever-dwindling class of hard workers supporting a raft of pensioners that outnumber them, and a scummy underbelly of scrotes who keep trying to kick the ladder out from under the whole system.
No real way to stop these people having kids, but education is the key.
I hate to say it too, but immigration is doing an awful lot of good for this country too. Even 'bogus' asylum seekers aren't aversed to working hard for what they can get compared to the worthless scrotes we have to call 'British'.
On of my housemates repairs and restores classic Land Rovers as a part-time job/hobby, and as a result we'll have up to 4 of them on the drive or road outside at any one time. Recently the local kids have started pulling bits off them. Last time we caught one in the act (broad daylight) and asked him why. He said "I can do what I want". We told him he couldn't, then his hideous chavvy mother turned up and asked him why he needed so many Land Rovers and gave some poorly-reasoned crap filtered from ITV news (probably) about 4x4s 'killing the planet', and told him to 'get a Nova', then buggered off.
It's this complete inability of people to sequentially show respect to others or mind their own business that's becoming the crux of the problem, and it's the parents fault for not setting a responsibility.
I hate to sound like a Nazi, but some people just don't deserve to be parents. I find it so unfortunate when I see reports of wonderful loving couples with steady jobs who'd make great parents but can't conceive, and then you see vast armies of chav kids born to some undeserving hag who just has them because she likes kids, shovelling them full of hyperactivity-inducing junk food, slapping them at the slightest provocation, spouting crap that defends them and 'their rights' at all costs and generally setting a very poor example.
The thing is, these people have been engineered by economic mismanagement over the years. It used to be that you thought about such things and had kids when you could afford to look after them, hence lots of hard-working families, and the harder you worked, the more you could provide. This ethic continued through to the children.
Then Labour ruined the economy in the '70s, putting millions of people out of work largely due to massively outdated industry. Thatcher didn't do much better in clearing up the mess, but now we find ourselves arrived in Blair's Britain.
Blair's Britain, where the sort of hard-working family who'd previously provide the country with its next generation are now working too hard to meet each other, and even if they did, pay too much in terms of tax. And then you get people too lazy/uneducated to work just sitting on their arses squeezing kids out habitually. The miscreant fathers up and leave, and these families just spread out uncontrolled.
I fear that in the future we're going to have an ever-dwindling class of hard workers supporting a raft of pensioners that outnumber them, and a scummy underbelly of scrotes who keep trying to kick the ladder out from under the whole system.
No real way to stop these people having kids, but education is the key.
I hate to say it too, but immigration is doing an awful lot of good for this country too. Even 'bogus' asylum seekers aren't aversed to working hard for what they can get compared to the worthless scrotes we have to call 'British'.
Years ago you could have gone out a physically shifted them, now if you do that you're looking at a 5 stretch 
Paint the garage roofs with never dry paint, that'll keep 'em off. Other than that i can't think of anything that you can do (that i'd want to type on a public forum anyway).
Paint the garage roofs with never dry paint, that'll keep 'em off. Other than that i can't think of anything that you can do (that i'd want to type on a public forum anyway).
parrot of doom said:
Just make the garage roof incredibly weak, and fill the garage with spiky rusty metal and wood.
They won't do it again.
Though you'll probably be prosecuted for not having a garage roof which is fit for them to climb on. There probably isn't anything that you can do this side of a hockey mask and chainsaw which will have any effect.
thebluemonkey said:
Just make the garage roof incredibly weak, and fill the garage with spiky rusty metal and wood.
They won't do it again.
Though you'll probably be prosecuted for not having a garage roof which is fit for them to climb on. There probably isn't anything that you can do this side of a hockey mask and chainsaw which will have any effect.
I'm not so sure. I think perhaps 'engineering' an accident then fitting prominent 'Warning-Keep Off!' signs would point them in the right direction, ie if they do it again they know what's coming to them.
Then again, like I said earlier, the problem as a whole needs to be tackled - once they're off the garage they'll just move on to something else won't they.
Unfortunatly, the garages dont belong to me, I am in the Planning Permission Stage of building my own. I know all the owners of them though. 1 has got so sick of holes in his roof which damamges his car he has just taken the bloody garage down. The garage next to that is owned by a plumber, he has made the most noise toward the council and even sent them a bill for the broken windscreen which just happens to have occured after the street lights where put in, kid lobed a concrete block off one roof onto his and it went straight through. Another is owned by a bloke with a couple of motorcyles that he keep in his garage, his is the garage with the window. His retired neighbour owns another, his is the one that got the roof pulled off, and the other is a large one that keeps getting the sides kicked in. Dont know who owns that one though. Most have all said they will paint the roofs with that anti vandal paint stuff. Problem is, and this is what worries most people, when they realise that they cant use the roofs anymore, what will they turn their attentions to next??? Also, its certain that the parents of these little gits will want money for the damage caused to the clothing by the paint. What can the owners do in that situation??
I know what you can do... You can vote for a politician to make laws that tie you up in knots, and allow a rudderless country to simply run aground before sinking at ever quickening pace into the swampy mire that is New 'all comer's welcome' Britain. That is what you can do, because they have decided that is all you can do. Now shut up, sit down and continue pulling your oar, 'The President' knows what he is doing...
tvradict said:
Most have all said they will paint the roofs with that anti vandal paint stuff. Also, its certain that the parents of these little gits will want money for the damage caused to the clothing by the paint. What can the owners do in that situation??
Tell the parent to get notted or ask them for for money to repair the roof, the paint on their kids clothes is proof enough that the kids were on the roof.
v8thunder said:
Then Labour ruined the economy in the '70s, putting millions of people out of work largely due to massively outdated industry. Thatcher didn't do much better in clearing up the mess, but now we find ourselves arrived in Blair's Britain.
That's rather an over-simplification and I don't believe you were there to see most of it?
As usual, blame the politicians. There ARE other factors at work in the world, outside the control even of politicians, that affect what goes on in the UK and elsewhere.
The difficulty is in finding a course to steer that keeps the most people safe.
In the case of British industry, it was being shafted from the top down and the bottom up at the same time... so you could blame the people as much as the politicians...
It's the Kids I feel most sorry for. It doesn't excuse their behaviour.
They know when the world is not doing right by them, as well as anyone. As adults, if things go pear shaped we have the rest of our lives to make up for it. The kids, they've just got six years to get it right.
The real problem can be attributed to those who say they are fixing the schools, but aren't.
They know when the world is not doing right by them, as well as anyone. As adults, if things go pear shaped we have the rest of our lives to make up for it. The kids, they've just got six years to get it right.
The real problem can be attributed to those who say they are fixing the schools, but aren't.
wedg1e said:
Then Labour ruined the economy in the '70s, putting millions of people out of work largely due to massively outdated industry. Thatcher didn't do much better in clearing up the mess, but now we find ourselves arrived in Blair's Britain.
That's rather an over-simplification and I don't believe you were there to see most of it?
As usual, blame the politicians. There ARE other factors at work in the world, outside the control even of politicians, that affect what goes on in the UK and elsewhere.
The difficulty is in finding a course to steer that keeps the most people safe.
In the case of British industry, it was being shafted from the top down and the bottom up at the same time... so you could blame the people as much as the politicians...
agreed,
But pretty much everything else v8Thunder said was absolutely spot on.
I've been wondering about a similar thing myself recently.
Our flats are next to a school. Every day from 9am till 3:20pm there are kids hanging round our gates, inside the property, all round the perimiter fence. We've been on to the school, had the police round, etc but they are quick enough to get away before anyone can get near them. Recently the school has started to say that the kids are nothing to do with them.
It's not so much the hanging around thats the big problem, it's the damage to fencing, lights, cars and also the intimidation factor when some of the residents are walking out rather than driving. The school even put up bins for the rubbish the kids seem to generate, within a few days it had been set on fire and melted.
I've considered asking to get the fencing electrified but that leaves you open to too many other issues.
I think the best thing to do is go for the never dry paint. It's their problem if they ruin their clothes, they shouldn't be there in the first place. Also, if you have a video camera, try and record some of their antics. If possible get enough zoom to identify them. There seems to be a lot more you can get done when you have visual evidence of whats going on.
Our flats are next to a school. Every day from 9am till 3:20pm there are kids hanging round our gates, inside the property, all round the perimiter fence. We've been on to the school, had the police round, etc but they are quick enough to get away before anyone can get near them. Recently the school has started to say that the kids are nothing to do with them.
It's not so much the hanging around thats the big problem, it's the damage to fencing, lights, cars and also the intimidation factor when some of the residents are walking out rather than driving. The school even put up bins for the rubbish the kids seem to generate, within a few days it had been set on fire and melted.
I've considered asking to get the fencing electrified but that leaves you open to too many other issues.
I think the best thing to do is go for the never dry paint. It's their problem if they ruin their clothes, they shouldn't be there in the first place. Also, if you have a video camera, try and record some of their antics. If possible get enough zoom to identify them. There seems to be a lot more you can get done when you have visual evidence of whats going on.
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