Contracting in Sweden
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HariboTD

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4 posts

127 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Hi folks - new here, but enjoy reading PH and hoping there are some people with the knowledge and experience to help me out on a query.

I've had an opportunity presented to me with a "well-respected OEM" in Sweden (Gothenburg) - no prizes for those able to narrow this down.

The offer is generous at first glance, though having done some digging I understand I can only use a UK registered company for 183 days, thereafter I would need to pay income tax and all the social security shebang on my entire income. If there are no alternatives to this then it's difficult for me to justify accepting the offer.

I therefore have a few questions:

Therefore is are there any legal and not entirely morally reprehensible means of reducing my taxation as a contractor in Sweden?

e.g. Is it possible to form a Swedish branch of a UK company and pay dividends (assuming dividend payments are taxed at corporation rates, and I pay myself a 'min' salary which would be taxed at standard rates) to my company?

Also, any thoughts on how best to transfer monies from one account to my UK account (legally and efficiently from a exchange perspective)?

Few bits of info:

- I'd be living 100% in Sweden (i.e. no commuting to and from UK)
- Length of contract is 6months though likelihood this would be extended to 24months every 6 months

Thanks!

robinessex

11,994 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Go see an accountant. Loads of UK contractors work abroad, use a uk registered company, and the normal method is to pay the taxes of the country you are working in. Then you are exempt from UK tax for that period. But an accountant maybe able to set up a company the LEGALLY reduces your tax liabilty. It is/can be pretty complicated if you don't know the rules. The girls are nice in Sweden though !!!

PoloStu

14 posts

127 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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I'm set up as a Ltd company and was working in Nigeria mnth/mnth. So if you can set up to do the same:
You will pay 20% corporation tax. there is no way of getting away from this as a Ltd company.
You are a member of staff of your company, thus so set it so you only get paid £1000 per month, this keeps you below the income tax threshold.
You then pay yourself £xx as a monthly Dividend. these are tax free (or they are until the govmnt closes the loophole).

Setting up as a sole trader or self employed is a different ball game again. get the best accountant you can afford, they are worth their weight in gold, especially come the end of year tax time.

robinessex

11,994 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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I know a contractor who got a £2000 accountant bill to sort out his tax after he came back from Holland. The annoying thing was, he's done it all correctly, it was HMRC who were complete idiots, and wanted everything verified. Wouldn't listen to him, but shut up when the accountant got involved.

HariboTD

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4 posts

127 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Thanks for the responses folks.

It seems professional advice is a sensible step forward on this. I can see many potentially major f*ckups, not least ending up on the wrong end of either the British or Swedish tax authorities, if this is approached without a tax/relocation expert.

Any more thoughts, tips and experiences welcome...

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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There are issues in Scandinavia you need to pay class 1 NHI, to avoid local social security no other class will do, when I was in Norway I used PWC they are excellent.

PoloStu

14 posts

127 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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It all depends on your contract. My contract is IR35 safe, which means a load of other stuff that only my accountant can understand. An accountant is the only way forward. There is soo many pitfalls and different ways to do it that there's no way to do it by going off a forum of people's opinions.

robinessex

11,994 posts

210 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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PoloStu said:
It all depends on your contract. My contract is IR35 safe, which means a load of other stuff that only my accountant can understand. An accountant is the only way forward. There is soo many pitfalls and different ways to do it that there's no way to do it by going off a forum of people's opinions.
I'll second that. It is possible that you can form a company with family members 'on the books', pay them a small low tax wage, and end up with no tax liability at all. But it's imperative you get a proffesional to set all this up for you. Of course, you could ask your local MP. They seem to know countless ways of becoming non exec directors, and squirreling money away from the tax man !!! And claiming 'strange' expenses !!!!

HariboTD

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4 posts

127 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Thanks for all your tips guys.

Can anyone recommend any accountants they work with in and around the West Midlands?

PM me if you'd prefer not to share in a public forum

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Saturday 20th February 2016
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http://accountabilityos.com/

Speak to Anna. She's Swedish and is the Director of this company ^^

robinessex

11,994 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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PH comes good again !

HariboTD

Original Poster:

4 posts

127 months

Monday 22nd February 2016
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Thanks all for your tips and thoughts

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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I used PWC, they do everything; I simply fill in their local forms and they set everything up with the UK / German taxation.

I pay tax in PAYE tax in Germany, Self Assessment in the UK, yet my social security contributions count towards UK higher pension (not that its worth anything) and pay my private pension in the UK through my local payroll.

No idea how it works, but PWC helped! Although I moved from Company A UK to Company A DE.

Good luck!