Sneaky police.
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There is a sneaky thing I'm seeing more and more traffic police doing to "stop" speeding, bad driving etc.
There is a junction on the East bound M62 (jct 30 I think, the one after the M1) where a traffic cop will sit on the slip road to enter the motorway. Thus you can't see him until you've gone past.
Is this fair? I know there is more to the whole speeding issue but isn't this a way of just catching an odd person and not actually trying to prevent speeding?
We all know how effective a police car doing 70 on the motorway can be. AND there is a police banking thing about a mile away built for them to sit on for high visibility.
Oh hang a minute, if they catch rather then prevent, do they get some cash from a fine?? No, that would be a crazy thought!
There is a junction on the East bound M62 (jct 30 I think, the one after the M1) where a traffic cop will sit on the slip road to enter the motorway. Thus you can't see him until you've gone past.
Is this fair? I know there is more to the whole speeding issue but isn't this a way of just catching an odd person and not actually trying to prevent speeding?
We all know how effective a police car doing 70 on the motorway can be. AND there is a police banking thing about a mile away built for them to sit on for high visibility.
Oh hang a minute, if they catch rather then prevent, do they get some cash from a fine?? No, that would be a crazy thought!
"Oh hang a minute, if they catch rather then prevent, do they get some cash from a fine?? No, that would be a crazy thought!"
Nail on head..
Not to mention the fact that a cop car driving at 70mph actually costs money while making none, park up and get the hairdryer out and the money rolls in.
Nail on head..
Not to mention the fact that a cop car driving at 70mph actually costs money while making none, park up and get the hairdryer out and the money rolls in.
But won't it better to patrol and pick up more cases of bad driving, drunk driving etc which surely you can do alot better when "out and about" with the traffic rather than just sitting on a slip road targetting speeders?
You have said yourself you can pick up alot of uninsured, untaxed, banned drivers from gut reaction. Aren't these the major cause of problems on the road, not the pure speeders.
You have said yourself you can pick up alot of uninsured, untaxed, banned drivers from gut reaction. Aren't these the major cause of problems on the road, not the pure speeders.
Dickster said:
There is a sneaky thing I'm seeing more and more traffic police doing to "stop" speeding, bad driving etc.
There is a junction on the East bound M62 (jct 30 I think, the one after the M1) where a traffic cop will sit on the slip road to enter the motorway. Thus you can't see him until you've gone past.
Is this fair? I know there is more to the whole speeding issue but isn't this a way of just catching an odd person and not actually trying to prevent speeding?
We all know how effective a police car doing 70 on the motorway can be. AND there is a police banking thing about a mile away built for them to sit on for high visibility.
Oh hang a minute, if they catch rather then prevent, do they get some cash from a fine?? No, that would be a crazy thought!
I think i'm kinda missing the point. Use your rear view mirror as you go past. If you spot a TrafPol car, slow down.
gh0st said:
I generally only move off for cars that average 92mph and above....
Good man
Reasons are varied; but I like to think that at 92mph...you know you are speeding and that's on a slight incline..(where I sit)..so on the straight or the downhill section...the car will be going quicker and by that time..I will be following...
By the same token...it's quality not quantity when it comes to tickets/ROS as I could 'peg' 100s on the motorway if I did the 10%+2mph...
gone said:
I was doing this over 20 years ago . It was taught by my crew mate who had 20 years experience before mine! It is not a new concept but quite a successful one
Aye..I remember as a lad seeing the early Ford Granadas on the slip roads as I passed by at the speed limit in my Fiat Mirafiori 131..
deeen said:
And of course we're all much safer watching our nearside wing mirrors than watching the road / traffic conditions unfold ahead of us.
No...
Either don't exceed the speed limit, or slow down on either side of junction ramps.....
Or if it's me watching....keep it under 90ish mph..
Not exactly a lot to ask, is it...?
I've seen a lot of traf pols in that area, especially at night, and i've also seen a lot of 'ton plus' lane switching prats in cars that aren't being caught by them.
Went past one at 85 a couple of weeks ago - didn't see him. He didn't pursue, and never heard anything, (it was about 1am and the road was empty)
Good stuff if you ask me.
Went past one at 85 a couple of weeks ago - didn't see him. He didn't pursue, and never heard anything, (it was about 1am and the road was empty)
Good stuff if you ask me.
Just another example of the anti-speed policy being irrelevant to road safety, IMHO.
S-C posted recently about being parked in full view in a battenburg near a junction in a 40 limit (i think) when the roads were slippery. That day he was improving road safety.
Hiding up a slip road presumably restricts your view of the traffic, reduces your ability to spot bad driving and reduces you to the level of cash collectors. No deterrent effect, no chance for your "spidey sense" to sniff out the uninsured drivers from their reaction to the police car, etc.etc.
S-C posted recently about being parked in full view in a battenburg near a junction in a 40 limit (i think) when the roads were slippery. That day he was improving road safety.
Hiding up a slip road presumably restricts your view of the traffic, reduces your ability to spot bad driving and reduces you to the level of cash collectors. No deterrent effect, no chance for your "spidey sense" to sniff out the uninsured drivers from their reaction to the police car, etc.etc.
deeen..
I know where you're coming from...but there are different ways to deal with road safety...some more palatable than others...
For example..if I park on a platform on a motorway in bad weather...it's dangerous..as people slam on their brakes and cause even more hassle....
However, once past my location...it's on the gas again and Vrooom!...
However, the odd fine and points and the driver tones down his driving for 3 years..and stays under the 92mph SC tolerance limit.
The bottom line is this: The law IS enforsable. It's nice to see a police car slowing people down etc..but the fact remains that there are many many occasions where the BiB has to do the job they swore to do and put pen to paper....
Sorry, but true..
I know where you're coming from...but there are different ways to deal with road safety...some more palatable than others...
For example..if I park on a platform on a motorway in bad weather...it's dangerous..as people slam on their brakes and cause even more hassle....
However, once past my location...it's on the gas again and Vrooom!...
However, the odd fine and points and the driver tones down his driving for 3 years..and stays under the 92mph SC tolerance limit.
The bottom line is this: The law IS enforsable. It's nice to see a police car slowing people down etc..but the fact remains that there are many many occasions where the BiB has to do the job they swore to do and put pen to paper....
Sorry, but true..
Hi Street, blimey you type fast...
Fair enough, you're doin what you're paid to.
I think even unmarked cars are better than the hide-and-zap tactics, at least you have a better chance of spotting the bad / inconsiderate / dangerous drivers, as opposed to just foccusing on the "speed" aspect. Still, I guess you don't set national policy personally?
I am also aware that a marked car on a motorway tends to produce a "bubble" of perfect driving, hence my acceptance of the need for unmarked cars. Even if it means that drivers of large, dark estate cars locally must be getting paranoid about the nutter in a sports car who keeps checking them out!
Fair enough, you're doin what you're paid to.
I think even unmarked cars are better than the hide-and-zap tactics, at least you have a better chance of spotting the bad / inconsiderate / dangerous drivers, as opposed to just foccusing on the "speed" aspect. Still, I guess you don't set national policy personally?
I am also aware that a marked car on a motorway tends to produce a "bubble" of perfect driving, hence my acceptance of the need for unmarked cars. Even if it means that drivers of large, dark estate cars locally must be getting paranoid about the nutter in a sports car who keeps checking them out!
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