Turned down for a job because of accent
Turned down for a job because of accent
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GavGav

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326 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Afternoon.

My wife was turned down for a job this week because the woman interviewing her "didn't like her accent". Is it just me, or is that quite prejudiced? My wife was actually born in the UK, but moved to Australia as a child. She has been back in this country since 2000, so it's not as if her accent is that heavy.

Having a quick google, it seems like an employer can't discriminate against an employee for having a "foreign" accent unless there is an issue with not being understood by customers. My wife isn't an employee, it's not like she's been sacked, but this seems a bit out of order. The woman interviewing sounds like a right snob, she said my wife was "the first stylish Australian" she'd ever met, and congratulated her on working with so many luxury brands in spite of her accent. Guess she thinks Aussies are all bogans.

It's not like we're taking legal action, I was just shocked she could be so openly prejudiced.

Jasandjules

72,571 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Yes that does sound rather offensive to me.


Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Sounds bang out of order to me. However I'm not sure what you do about it that would be of benefit to anybody. I'm assuming your wife doesn't want to work there with that piece of detritus. So...lucky escape?

(I once got turned down from a temp job because I was a man. Apparently only women can do data entry. Was quite irritating.)

theboss

7,500 posts

248 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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What sort of size company?

GavGav

Original Poster:

326 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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I would say it was a lucky escape for her, and no, it's unlikely we'll do anything about it. (just thought it was a cool story bro' etc)

It's not a big company, think it employs dozens rather than hundreds of people.

Jasandjules

72,571 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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They are required not to discriminate during the recruitment process. You could certainly write to the CEO of the company and advise them of what happened... If nothing else she might get some education

AyBee

11,310 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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In writing?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Sorry, I don't understand your post.

Could you write it in a different voice?

Vroom101

909 posts

162 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Op, was that the feedback your wife actually got (that she was specifically turned down for having an Australian accent, and would otherwise have got the job), or is that what she inferred from the behaviour of the interviewer?

If it's the former, then I would certainly be kicking up a bit of a stink with the interviewer's boss or the boss of the company, if only for my own peace of mind (and to make life a little bit uncomfortable for a bigot).

singlecoil

35,826 posts

275 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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What's the betting that the interviewer IS the CEO?

Sheepshanks

40,904 posts

148 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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If she actually was Australian then it probably would be discrimination, but I don't know what happens as she's British.

People do sue for discrimination at interview.

GavGav

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326 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
If she actually was Australian then it probably would be discrimination, but I don't know what happens as she's British.

People do sue for discrimination at interview.
Well she's dual nationality, so she is Australian. And British.

singlecoil said:
What's the betting that the interviewer IS the CEO?
Bingo.

Vroom101 said:
Op, was that the feedback your wife actually got (that she was specifically turned down for having an Australian accent, and would otherwise have got the job), or is that what she inferred from the behaviour of the interviewer?

If it's the former, then I would certainly be kicking up a bit of a stink with the interviewer's boss or the boss of the company, if only for my own peace of mind (and to make life a little bit uncomfortable for a bigot).
The feedback from the agency was she "couldn't get past the accent". During the interview she did make some other odd comments, such as not being able to stand "the way people from Bristol talk".

AyBee said:
In writing?
It was fed back to the agency, not sure if it was in writing, but the agency told my wife verbally.

I doubt we'll take it any further. They will probably end up with someone that doesn't have the skills and experience that my wife has, but has the right accent. It's just a bit frustrating as she's been for a few interviews recently and is usually told she's over qualified. Or one interview a few weeks ago where the CEO said that her enthusiasm "wouldn't fit in with his business". That was a small, organic retail business trying to expand their operations. Strange.

Spanna

3,737 posts

205 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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Trying to expand.
Can't stand people from other places.
Logic.


supertouring

2,228 posts

262 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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What kind of dumb agent passes that back to an interviewee?

What was the job, out of interest? If the speaking clock (ask your grandparents kids) then I can see her point.

Sheepshanks

40,904 posts

148 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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GavGav said:
The feedback from the agency was she "couldn't get past the accent". During the interview she did make some other odd comments, such as not being able to stand "the way people from Bristol talk".
So was it the Australian accent or the Bristol accent? I'm not sure being from Bristol counts as a race.

It seems incredibly unprofessional of the agency to pass such feedback on.

GavGav

Original Poster:

326 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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The recruitment consultant and my wife seem to get on well - my wife asked for honest feedback and that's what she was told.
I'm not a fan of recruitment agencies, but this one does seem to be putting the effort in with the Mrs.

She's looking for a marketing role, has experience with a lot of top-end clients and products, so a "luxury brand" is her preferred area. But she's realistic and is willing to lower her sights. When she's gone for jobs with "normal" brands she has been told she should really be aiming higher - she's even been told they couldn't meet her salary expectations, before she's even mentioned salary. And then when she goes for a job more suited to her skills and experience she gets this kind of response.

GavGav

Original Poster:

326 posts

230 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
So was it the Australian accent or the Bristol accent? I'm not sure being from Bristol counts as a race.

It seems incredibly unprofessional of the agency to pass such feedback on.
She doesn't have a Bristolian accent at all, Australian. The subject came up when the wife said she lived in Bristol.

If it were me I would rather the agency told me the truth like that rather than made up some bullst excuse. I think it's unprofessional of the interviewer rather than the agency.