RE: Phoney Law
Tuesday 20th August 2002
Phoney Law
What will it take to get people to pay attention whilst their driving?
Discussion
quote:
eating and smoking at the wheel should also be specifically banned
Hmm ... thing is, where do you stop. So, does this mean that retuning the radio (or listening to music at all) should be banned ? If you're not allowed to talk to someone using a plug in hands free kit on a mobile phone, does that also mean that you shouldn't be allowed to talk to your passengers ?!?
I think banning using the phone whilst moving is a good idea, but they should still allow use with hands free kits and in stationary traffic (e.g. jams)
quote:This is a dangerous idea to put into the heads of those who want to get us out of our cars - ban smoking in the car and perhaps the biggest incentive for 30%+ of the population to stay in their car and away from public transport is crushed underfoot in one fell swoop.
Yeah, but now the AA have jumped on the bandwagon saying that eating and smoking at the wheel should also be specifically banned. OTT IMO, but w@nkers one the phone are really pissing me off at the moment.
It's bollocks really, isn't it .. If you find the quote, let me know the name of the spokesperson.
Edit: Found the quote on BBC site.. Bert Morris, your card is marked.
Though I have to say that his comments are being slightly misprepresented. The idea of banning smoking and so forth are put forward to illustrate how ludicrous it is to specifically ban mobiles.
Perhaps the funniest quote in the BBC article is this:
quote:Brilliant
The RAC Foundation also pointed out that drivers faced "hundreds" of distractions while driving, including passengers, posters, cones, congestion and cyclists.
>> Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 20th August 12:05
I drive my big German slushbox saloon with a wire in my ear, and a mic near my trap. I shall continue to use it until I see fit not to. As far as I am concerned I am in full control of my vehicle, and for chissake, if I dial a number, is that not the same action as retuning the bloody radio ?
Bubble-Wrapism* , this smacks of. Jesus, I get more worked up listening to some of the bile on the radio, never mind the poor bugger who's just called me.
Have these people not got better things to do ?
*(c) A. Richardson 2001,2002. Used without kind permission.
>> Edited by GregE240 on Tuesday 20th August 12:26
Bubble-Wrapism* , this smacks of. Jesus, I get more worked up listening to some of the bile on the radio, never mind the poor bugger who's just called me.
Have these people not got better things to do ?
*(c) A. Richardson 2001,2002. Used without kind permission.
>> Edited by GregE240 on Tuesday 20th August 12:26
Hmmmmmmmmmm, interesting.... Small end of the wedge tho, methinks. Smacks of nambypampyisms and a severe case of cottonwoolitis.
As stated before, there are laws to stop this already - a specifc law is not required (just more dosh for Tones Crones perhaps as they draft , re-draft, focus groups, re-write etc......). If they can do some-eone for having a drink of water at a traffic light, then with this, even being seen to be talkin in the car will get banned before long.
Nah, leave it alone.
As stated before, there are laws to stop this already - a specifc law is not required (just more dosh for Tones Crones perhaps as they draft , re-draft, focus groups, re-write etc......). If they can do some-eone for having a drink of water at a traffic light, then with this, even being seen to be talkin in the car will get banned before long.
Nah, leave it alone.
quote:
Yeah, but now the AA have jumped on the bandwagon saying that eating and smoking at the wheel should also be specifically banned. OTT IMO, but w@nkers one the phone are really pissing me off at the moment.
According to the BBC website the AA are against the banning of mobiles whilst driving and used the other points as an example.
It also appears that handsfree use would not be banned.
Link here
Cheers,
JSG.
Current DfT view on mobiles is at
www.think.dft.gov.uk/mobile/
Note - this is as it currently stands, and describes why various phone antics can currently be offenses.
So if thats what the DfT think, tell me again why we need new legislation?
www.think.dft.gov.uk/mobile/
Note - this is as it currently stands, and describes why various phone antics can currently be offenses.
So if thats what the DfT think, tell me again why we need new legislation?
Current DfT view on mobiles says:
quote:
Although you may think that a hands-free phone will enable you to control the vehicle, your mind will not be fully on your driving. It is not like talking to a passenger who is aware of the traffic conditions and can see what is happening while you are driving.
SO..therefore its up to the passenger you are talking to to grab the wheel and take evasive actions etc..?
quote:
quote:
No. After you've crashed, your passenger can give you a good slapping. Someone on the end of a phone can only go 'Hello?... Hello?...'
"...is it me your cooking for, I can see it in your eyes..."
took me a while to get that one...
we're not all old enough to remember Lionel Ritchie hits you know.. ATG: "Smeagol ... put down the phone and use your head. "
from one of my previous posts: "Before people want to get back at me, I don't use my mobile phone whilst moving in a car. Its a sensible safety measure, BUT the law is to protect people from other people not a nanny state. Endangering others whilst driving is already a law, we don't need another stupid law, thank you."
I'm not arguing that the use of a mobile could be dangerous but that a blanket nanny state law is not the way to cure the problem. There are plenty of other things that ditsract drivers, there is already a law that exists which police on patrol can use, so why invent another poorly thought through law?
From what I can gather they are also saying that headphones and microphones sets are also banned but not hands-free. Okay that makes sense
Also I occasionally sing and talk to myself whilst I drive, esp. on boring Mways, whats to stop the police pulling me over on the suspicion of talking on a phone?
As usual this law will be a pure knee-jerk reaction to a problem. Education as always is the key.
from one of my previous posts: "Before people want to get back at me, I don't use my mobile phone whilst moving in a car. Its a sensible safety measure, BUT the law is to protect people from other people not a nanny state. Endangering others whilst driving is already a law, we don't need another stupid law, thank you."
I'm not arguing that the use of a mobile could be dangerous but that a blanket nanny state law is not the way to cure the problem. There are plenty of other things that ditsract drivers, there is already a law that exists which police on patrol can use, so why invent another poorly thought through law?
From what I can gather they are also saying that headphones and microphones sets are also banned but not hands-free. Okay that makes sense
Also I occasionally sing and talk to myself whilst I drive, esp. on boring Mways, whats to stop the police pulling me over on the suspicion of talking on a phone? As usual this law will be a pure knee-jerk reaction to a problem. Education as always is the key.
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