Life insurance, over insured ?
Life insurance, over insured ?
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J4CKO

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46,935 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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I have a pension with work that will pay out £400,000 (plus spouses pension) if I die and personal life insurance which is another £25 a month, so, getting on for 800 grand.

Three kids, no mortgage, no debts.

Was thinking I dont need the extra, will probably hang on to it but seem to pay out so much money in various insurances (cars, house, ga boiler, dog, 2 * life, mobile phone etc etc), in case something bad happens and would rather have it to spend/save, it only runs another 4 and a bit years until I am 50 anyway, would you bin it off ?




Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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No.

gibbon

2,182 posts

237 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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I think many people are over insured generally in life, boilers, extended warranties, crazy levels of pet, phone, laptop insurance etc, but only you can answer that question in this case.


C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Came to a similar conclusion, lucky really as if I'd have listened to our IFA I'd have a load of extra life cover that I really don't need (and he'd be earning more commission that I didn't need him to earn).

I'm in my forties, two kids and the wife, I have some life cover already with work which is 4 x salary if I die whilst employed by them and as you say my wife also gets my pension which is sitting around £250k at the moment so her and the kids should be good for ~£450k if I croak. Think that should cover stuff until the kids get jobs, admittedly they might no be quite so comfortable as they would be with me alive but me dying isn't supposed to be a win win situation biggrin

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Sarnie said:
No.
Absolutely agree 100%. A small amount of money for such peace of mind.

All the other insurances are just general running costs.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Jockman said:
Absolutely agree 100%. A small amount of money for such peace of mind.

All the other insurances are just general running costs.
Exactly. £25pm is not exactly a large amount for an employed person with no residential mortgage.

The £25pm saved isn't going to be of much benefit to the remaining family if the OP croaked it, as the pay out from the policy would.....

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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If anything.....I would be looking to extend it. You'd be surprised how much premiums have decreased since the outset of this policy.

Again, depends on circumstances.

sunil4

197 posts

154 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Not over insured, think of the benefits to your family as eventually we will all pop our clogs but extend it as said above

However, do you only have life insurance and no critical illness or total and permanent disability cover?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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C0ffin D0dger said:
I have some life cover already with work which is 4 x salary if I die whilst employed by them
Don't rely on that. If you get cancer or some other long term fatal illness, you'll have been let go long before you die, so won't get any death in service. No company can afford to employ you if you're off sick for months on end.



Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don't rely on that. If you get cancer or some other long term fatal illness, you'll have been let go long before you die, so won't get any death in service. No company can afford to employ you if you're off sick for months on end.
Quite.....and you are much more likely to get ill than you are to die, hence the difference in CIC & Life premiums.....

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

175 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don't rely on that. If you get cancer or some other long term fatal illness, you'll have been let go long before you die, so won't get any death in service. No company can afford to employ you if you're off sick for months on end.
Don't worry, got long term sick cover also with work.

J4CKO

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46,935 posts

230 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Whoa, food for thought, will stick with it, I just like to review what I am paying out periodically as its easy to end up overpaying stuff or paying for stuff you dont need.

Looks like I may need critical illness cover as well, that is a very good point about the Death In Service benefit and whether or not, if you get ill and survive longer than they will pay you, whether or not it still pays out, would hope so but going to check, also get some kind of payout from an old Local Government pension scheme I was in, need to check what that will pay out, they send a statement each year.

You sort of think you will be ok, but a lad at work died aged 52 a few months back, and he was a very fit lad, or at least seemed to be.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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J4CKO said:
Whoa, food for thought, will stick with it, I just like to review what I am paying out periodically as its easy to end up overpaying stuff or paying for stuff you dont need.

Looks like I may need critical illness cover as well, that is a very good point about the Death In Service benefit and whether or not, if you get ill and survive longer than they will pay you, whether or not it still pays out, would hope so but going to check, also get some kind of payout from an old Local Government pension scheme I was in, need to check what that will pay out, they send a statement each year.

You sort of think you will be ok, but a lad at work died aged 52 a few months back, and he was a very fit lad, or at least seemed to be.
Take a read of the penultimate post on this thread.......sobering;

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


TwigtheWonderkid

49,158 posts

180 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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J4CKO said:
that is a very good point about the Death In Service benefit and whether or not, if you get ill and survive longer than they will pay you, whether or not it still pays out, would hope so but going to check,
Death in service does exactly what it says. If you aren't in service when you die, there's no cover. Even if you were let go due to the illness that kills you.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

46,935 posts

230 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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They have just fiddled with the pension and apparently it now has an element of critical illness protection, best read the stuff they sent.

Ginge R

4,761 posts

249 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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J4CKO said:
Whoa, food for thought, will stick with it, I just like to review what I am paying out periodically as its easy to end up overpaying stuff or paying for stuff you dont need.

Looks like I may need critical illness cover as well, that is a very good point about the Death In Service benefit and whether or not, if you get ill and survive longer than they will pay you, whether or not it still pays out, would hope so but going to check, also get some kind of payout from an old Local Government pension scheme I was in, need to check what that will pay out, they send a statement each year.

You sort of think you will be ok, but a lad at work died aged 52 a few months back, and he was a very fit lad, or at least seemed to be.
Don't overlook Income Protection, Accident Sickness and Unemployment Benefit too and Family Income Benefit. CIC too, needn't be paid out as a lump sum.