5 minutes on double yellows?
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Previously I've been told but a PCN officer that I'm allowed 5 mins on double yellows before a fine is issued.
Today i parked on double yellows for 2-3 minutes, and I was given a ticket. I asked that officer about the 5 minute rule and he said its rubbish. Can anyone shed any light? Do I have any grounds for appeal if I've previously been told?
I have a dashcam, so I have proof that I was there for no longer than 5 mins.
Thanks
Today i parked on double yellows for 2-3 minutes, and I was given a ticket. I asked that officer about the 5 minute rule and he said its rubbish. Can anyone shed any light? Do I have any grounds for appeal if I've previously been told?
I have a dashcam, so I have proof that I was there for no longer than 5 mins.
Thanks
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiti...
www.gov.uk said:
Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (see ‘Road markings’) when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping.
SkySailing said:
Previously I've been told but a PCN officer that I'm allowed 5 mins on double yellows before a fine is issued.
Today i parked on double yellows for 2-3 minutes, and I was given a ticket. I asked that officer about the 5 minute rule and he said its rubbish. Can anyone shed any light? Do I have any grounds for appeal if I've previously been told?
I have a dashcam, so I have proof that I was there for no longer than 5 mins.
Thanks
Quoting for posterity. Comfortably one of the funniest things I've read this week, particularly the 'dashcam proof' bit.Today i parked on double yellows for 2-3 minutes, and I was given a ticket. I asked that officer about the 5 minute rule and he said its rubbish. Can anyone shed any light? Do I have any grounds for appeal if I've previously been told?
I have a dashcam, so I have proof that I was there for no longer than 5 mins.
Thanks
daytona355 said:
Double yellows mean no parking as far as I'm aware. There are some friendlier wardens who let you get away with a few minutes, there's one or two around here, but it's up to them, and not the law, so get the wrong guy on duty and you are stuffed. Pay up, you're nicked effedtively
Double yellow lines means no waiting. Unless there's a local order (CPZ) or kerb markings then loading / unloading is permitted. There are numerous authorities - collecting a bulky item is permitted but a small item wouldn't be. There's even an authority regarding a chinese meal - not permitted. SkySailing said:
It might be worth mentioning that I was delivering for a fast food outlet at the time. Is this classed as loading or unloading?
No as food delivery is not what would be considered a commercial activity, in relation to say Yodel or DHL delivering.Food delivery is for those people too idle to go and collect from a take away or too idle to cook a meal, make sandwiches on a morning etc.
agtlaw said:
Double yellow lines means no waiting. Unless there's a local order (CPZ) or kerb markings then loading / unloading is permitted. There are numerous authorities - collecting a bulky item is permitted but a small item wouldn't be. There's even an authority regarding a chinese meal - not permitted.
Ahh, I posted before he mentioned loading/unloading, just thought he was chancing parking... My badSkySailing said:
It might be worth mentioning that I was delivering for a fast food outlet at the time. Is this classed as loading or unloading?
It doesn't seem unreasonable to me to be allowed to use yellows for deliveries. I would check with the local authority though. I'm surprised the shop you work for hasn't checked this already.There is a little known exempyion for stopping on DYL
you can stop on DYL for the purposes of alighting and boarding passengers.This exemption apples even if the car has been left unattended in order to give assistance to a disabled person, vunerable person, or small child, and only if that is the only available place to park.
Pepipoo will give you chapter and verse on this should you ever find yourself done for such an instance
you can stop on DYL for the purposes of alighting and boarding passengers.This exemption apples even if the car has been left unattended in order to give assistance to a disabled person, vunerable person, or small child, and only if that is the only available place to park.
Pepipoo will give you chapter and verse on this should you ever find yourself done for such an instance
With regard to DYL, some loading is allowed, but each local authority have different observation times, this is to allow the CEO to see if any loading is taking place, generally a little longer for a commercial vehicle than for a car. But as I say, each authority has differing observation times so where you get 5 mins somewhere, you would get 2 in the next authority area.
If one is to appeal on loading grounds, then you need something 'official' to prove it, like a proper delivery note or something like that.
If one is to appeal on loading grounds, then you need something 'official' to prove it, like a proper delivery note or something like that.
agtlaw said:
daytona355 said:
Double yellows mean no parking as far as I'm aware. There are some friendlier wardens who let you get away with a few minutes, there's one or two around here, but it's up to them, and not the law, so get the wrong guy on duty and you are stuffed. Pay up, you're nicked effedtively
Double yellow lines means no waiting. Unless there's a local order (CPZ) or kerb markings then loading / unloading is permitted. There are numerous authorities - collecting a bulky item is permitted but a small item wouldn't be. There's even an authority regarding a chinese meal - not permitted. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff