£3000 in penalty charges
Discussion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
However:
BBC said:
A man who repeatedly parked in a private car park for longer than the two-hour limit has had to pay almost £3,000 in unpaid parking fees. Combined Parking Solutions took Edward Wales to court for parking in a SkyPark car park in Glasgow, used by McDonald's customers, on 33 occasions last year.
To be fair, he was taking the piss.However:
Robbing b
ds said:
ds said: Mike Perkins, operations manager of Combined Parking Solutions, said: "Yet again this is another case of someone logging onto the internet forums or listing to unqualified people that parking charges are not enforceable and yet again the courts agree they are fully enforceable and they continue to do so.
Not quite so - in Scotland you are not required to name the driver.matchmaker said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...
However:
Not a lot of help to Mr Wales in Scotland, who is now £3k lighter.BBC said:
A man who repeatedly parked in a private car park for longer than the two-hour limit has had to pay almost £3,000 in unpaid parking fees. Combined Parking Solutions took Edward Wales to court for parking in a SkyPark car park in Glasgow, used by McDonald's customers, on 33 occasions last year.
To be fair, he was taking the piss.However:
Robbing bds said:
ds said: Mike Perkins, operations manager of Combined Parking Solutions, said: "Yet again this is another case of someone logging onto the internet forums or listing to unqualified people that parking charges are not enforceable and yet again the courts agree they are fully enforceable and they continue to do so.
Not quite so - in Scotland you are not required to name the driver.A few of my friends work in the same area.
I assume they took this one to court because the parking enforcement company own the car park IIRC and they had video evidence showing the driver.
A lot of people my friends know park in PC world across the road. It has cameras that read the plates as they enter and leave. About a dozen or so people have had dozens of tickets (someone said over 100 for a few) over the course of many years, but no court summons yet.
I assume they took this one to court because the parking enforcement company own the car park IIRC and they had video evidence showing the driver.
A lot of people my friends know park in PC world across the road. It has cameras that read the plates as they enter and leave. About a dozen or so people have had dozens of tickets (someone said over 100 for a few) over the course of many years, but no court summons yet.
speedyguy said:
I'm sure PC world and other businesses love people like your friends, that's why some businesses in 'other countries' have a different system (which is by no means perfect).
What are their 'valid' reasons for doing so?.
They do it because they can get away with it i assume.What are their 'valid' reasons for doing so?.
There is more to this story than meets the eye.
CPS do not own the car park. Land registry confirms this, and CPS own accounts suggests their assets are not of the "land owning" level.
CPS do car parking management on a self-ticketing, paid commission basis - some local Norris will get £2O per ticket for each one that is paid.
CPS only have two direct employees.
If the settlement was made "out of court", what did the court clarify exactly on the enforcability?
If these were windscreen tickets, and not ANPR, who released the CCTV footage?
How did this CCTV unambiguously confirm the identity of the driver?
There is no record nor recollection on any of the usual internet parking forums of this fairly unique and memorable case, so I wonder why Mike Perkins has specifically said that this chap sought the advice of internet forums?
I strongly suspect that this is a fabricated PR exercise my Mike Perkins of Combined Parking Solutions. I understand that FOI requests have been submitted already.
Mike also likes to search google for his own name.
CPS do not own the car park. Land registry confirms this, and CPS own accounts suggests their assets are not of the "land owning" level.
CPS do car parking management on a self-ticketing, paid commission basis - some local Norris will get £2O per ticket for each one that is paid.
CPS only have two direct employees.
If the settlement was made "out of court", what did the court clarify exactly on the enforcability?
If these were windscreen tickets, and not ANPR, who released the CCTV footage?
How did this CCTV unambiguously confirm the identity of the driver?
There is no record nor recollection on any of the usual internet parking forums of this fairly unique and memorable case, so I wonder why Mike Perkins has specifically said that this chap sought the advice of internet forums?
I strongly suspect that this is a fabricated PR exercise my Mike Perkins of Combined Parking Solutions. I understand that FOI requests have been submitted already.
Mike also likes to search google for his own name.
Edited by S11Steve on Thursday 10th March 16:08
S11Steve said:
There is more to this story than meets the eye.
CPS do not own the car park. Land registry confirms this, and CPS own accounts suggests their assets are not of the "land owning" level.
CPS do car parking management on a self-ticketing, paid commission basis - some local Norris will get £2O per ticket for each one that is paid.
CPS only have two direct employees.
If the settlement was made "out of court", what did the court clarify exactly on the enforcability?
If these were windscreen tickets, and not ANPR, who released the CCTV footage?
How did this CCTV unambiguously confirm the identity of the driver?
There is no record nor recollection on any of the usual internet parking forums of this fairly unique and memorable case, so I wonder why Mike Perkins has specifically said that this chap sought the advice of internet forums?
I strongly suspect that this is a fabricated PR exercise my Mike Perkins of Combined Parking Solutions. I understand that FOI requests have been submitted already.
Mike also likes to search google for his own name.
So you're claiming this is all made up?CPS do not own the car park. Land registry confirms this, and CPS own accounts suggests their assets are not of the "land owning" level.
CPS do car parking management on a self-ticketing, paid commission basis - some local Norris will get £2O per ticket for each one that is paid.
CPS only have two direct employees.
If the settlement was made "out of court", what did the court clarify exactly on the enforcability?
If these were windscreen tickets, and not ANPR, who released the CCTV footage?
How did this CCTV unambiguously confirm the identity of the driver?
There is no record nor recollection on any of the usual internet parking forums of this fairly unique and memorable case, so I wonder why Mike Perkins has specifically said that this chap sought the advice of internet forums?
I strongly suspect that this is a fabricated PR exercise my Mike Perkins of Combined Parking Solutions. I understand that FOI requests have been submitted already.
Mike also likes to search google for his own name.
Edited by S11Steve on Thursday 10th March 16:08
Retroman said:
A little off topic but as i understand it civil courts in Scotland and CCJ's are a little different in Scotland.
If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
A visit from the Sheriff's.If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
Monkeylegend said:
Retroman said:
A little off topic but as i understand it civil courts in Scotland and CCJ's are a little different in Scotland.
If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
A visit from the Sheriff Officers.If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
Corrected
matchmaker said:
Monkeylegend said:
Retroman said:
A little off topic but as i understand it civil courts in Scotland and CCJ's are a little different in Scotland.
If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
A visit from the Sheriff Officers.If this did go to court and judgement ended up being that the driver was to pay back the fines, what happens in the event they don't?
Corrected
I'm more of a wild west man 
S11Steve said:
Devil2575 said:
So you're claiming this is all made up?
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was.The idea that the BBC would not check out a story at all and risk their reputation is something of a long shot.
It is possible that it's made up but I'd suggest very unlikely.
Edited by Devil2575 on Thursday 10th March 20:49
Irrespective of whether it is made up or not if people didn't park where they shouldnt in the first place we wouldn't have these parking companies in the first place.
I strongly suspect the majority of drivers has never had one of these tickets in the first place.
Strangely those who are all for campaigning against the parking companies never seem keen on people parking on their drives.
I strongly suspect the majority of drivers has never had one of these tickets in the first place.
Strangely those who are all for campaigning against the parking companies never seem keen on people parking on their drives.
Devil2575 said:
It would require the BBC to have not done anything to check out the stories veracity.
The idea that the BBC would not check out a story at all and risk their reputation is something of a long shot.
It is possible that it's made up but I'd suggest very unlikely.
The same story is posted virtually word for word across dozens of news sites by now, almost reads like a press release strangely enough.The idea that the BBC would not check out a story at all and risk their reputation is something of a long shot.
It is possible that it's made up but I'd suggest very unlikely.
Edited by Devil2575 on Thursday 10th March 20:49
I'll happily stand corrected though.
It's on this Google cache
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cac...
Near the bottom of the page.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cac...
Near the bottom of the page.
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