A few pics from Geneva
A few pics from Geneva
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Little Donkey

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1,544 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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So out the back of the main stand away from the riff raff lurks a right hooker DB11 in a spec that we're all a little more at home with.

Have to say - the body coloured roof rails are, for me, the way to go. Although I understand that this won't be an option for the first 1000 cars. All the DB11's at Geneva are still by and large prototypes so there's still a few details to sort out. Something like 1200 orders have been placed with production to start in September.

PS - before anyone says anything about shut lines, the boot lid had been popped so wasn't closed properly.















Edited by Little Donkey on Thursday 10th March 20:50


Edited by Little Donkey on Thursday 10th March 20:52

8Tech

2,212 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Hmmm. Up until your detailed pics, I REALLY liked the look of the "11" but that rear end in detail just looks too fussy.

I think the styling has been compromised by the integration of that "aero-spoiler".

I assume the seat stitching is selectable, but that is not to my taste either.

Yes, I would still want one, just even if it was for the engine, but I cannot afford one. Those pics just cheer me up a tiny amount as my dream of owning one is not quite as vivid now.

My dream would be that engine, in my "9".

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Little Donkey said:
...PS - before anyone says anything about shut lines, the boot lid had been popped so wasn't closed properly. ...]
That was nothing compared to the shut line of the DB5 sitting next to it at Geneva. There was another video I saw it in but can't find that showed a pronounced gap (arrowed) in the boot line. The boot was definitely fully closed and showed all other sides nice and even. It's worried me ever since how AM could put this model on display with an obvious flaw, but maybe it's the camera angle. (Sorry to get off topic). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JMzCytcT4g


kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I always thought the aero-spoiler was retractable, so this photo view shows it's apparently not.


kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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8Tech said:
Hmmm. Up until your detailed pics, I REALLY liked the look of the "11" but that rear end in detail just looks too fussy...
I'm thinking of all the extra cleaning that the fussy details around this model will cause us smile

Jon39

14,963 posts

173 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I suppose if anything had to go through a hedge backwards, probably better that it was the gent's trousers, rather than the car.




Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 10th March 23:09

Jon39

14,963 posts

173 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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kensilver said:
That was nothing compared to the shut line of the DB5 sitting next to it at Geneva.


I have hear it said, that if you see a Newport Pagnell car with perfect shut lines, it is probably a replica.

There is one NP model, not sure which one, where more exist than were ever made.



DB9VolanteDriver

2,661 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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kensilver said:
I always thought the aero-spoiler was retractable, so this photo view shows it's apparently not.

Umm, that's not the spoiler. You're looking at the front of the car.

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
kensilver said:
I always thought the aero-spoiler was retractable, so this photo view shows it's apparently not.

Umm, that's not the spoiler. You're looking at the front of the car.
I couldn't find the right term for these two bonnet spoilers despite searching for a while, so made do with that. The back virtual spoiler has been called both an Aero Spoiler along with AeroBlade - a registered trademark - for the air management system.

Someone know the right names?

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Jon39 said:

I have hear it said, that if you see a Newport Pagnell car with perfect shut lines, it is probably a replica....
I'm in awe of the workmanship on these early cars, but the alignment on this one was out by a lot. Must be a real one then smile

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

246 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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kensilver said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
kensilver said:
I always thought the aero-spoiler was retractable, so this photo view shows it's apparently not.

Umm, that's not the spoiler. You're looking at the front of the car.
I couldn't find the right term for these two bonnet spoilers despite searching for a while, so made do with that. The back virtual spoiler has been called both an Aero Spoiler along with AeroBlade - a registered trademark - for the air management system.

Someone know the right names?
Gimmick......

Guycord

744 posts

203 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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kensilver said:
Little Donkey said:
...PS - before anyone says anything about shut lines, the boot lid had been popped so wasn't closed properly. ...]
That was nothing compared to the shut line of the DB5 sitting next to it at Geneva. There was another video I saw it in but can't find that showed a pronounced gap (arrowed) in the boot line. The boot was definitely fully closed and showed all other sides nice and even. It's worried me ever since how AM could put this model on display with an obvious flaw, but maybe it's the camera angle. (Sorry to get off topic). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JMzCytcT4g

Thing is...that aluminium creeps over time and combined with 1950/60's manufacturing design and methods (hitting Alu with a hammer or variants of, its going to warp, creep and move in ways similar to how we age.

With the DB5, there are a number of corrections that could be made:-
1. Rebuild the boot (lose the original part)
2. Tweak the fit as best you can to average overall fit (did this to my DB4 boot lid and it is a very expensive and timely dog to do)
3. Leave as is. (original, as built, "patina")

With a couple of classic Astons in the garage, I can also attest to the fact that the small manufacturing numbers, ancient design and build techniques at NP, virtually every car ever made up to the DB7 (possibly the vanquish Mk1 too) were all one-off prototypes. They're all dimensional dissimilar (even side to side on the same car) and often custom fit (bodged to fit, rather that to a Customer exacting needs)



brakedwell

1,229 posts

229 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Oh dear. These pictures have not changed my mind as I hoped they would. In particular I think the interior is a mess. All those curves with a square instrument pinnacle and "iPad" satnav screen perched on top does nothing for me.

john ryan

542 posts

162 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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At NP, the case was that Harry would make the left side, and Fred the right-at least that is what a tape measure will tell you.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Does the navigation screen fold down or is it fixed that you have to have a large LCD screen in the car ?

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Guycord said:
...With a couple of classic Astons in the garage, I can also attest to the fact that the small manufacturing numbers, ancient design and build techniques at NP, virtually every car ever made up to the DB7 (possibly the vanquish Mk1 too) were all one-off prototypes. They're all dimensional dissimilar (even side to side on the same car) and often custom fit (bodged to fit, rather that to a Customer exacting needs)
You can extend that problem right up to to my 2003 Vanquish. One of the rocker panels was quite obviously a different colour, and after extensive questioning it was revealed that car had never been touched after leaving the factory. I was quite disappointed at the finish.

While I love the concept of hand built, part of my OCD/engineering nature wants perfection. Thankfully AM are providing it more often now, and parts like the paintwork are simply splendid.

Interesting background info on ageing Astons too. I learn something new every day.

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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bogie said:
Does the navigation screen fold down or is it fixed that you have to have a large LCD screen in the car ?
Fixed. But I like the way t it faithfully follows the history of the tilted, jutting screen in concept.

Grant3

3,710 posts

285 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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kensilver said:
I couldn't find the right term for these two bonnet spoilers despite searching for a while, so made do with that. The back virtual spoiler has been called both an Aero Spoiler along with AeroBlade - a registered trademark - for the air management system.

Someone know the right names?
Bonnet Blades, they sit in the outer two mesh bonnet grilles, an option that can have a bright or dark finish smile

kensilver

312 posts

149 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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Grant3 said:
kensilver said:
I couldn't find the right term for these... The back virtual spoiler has been called both an Aero Spoiler along with AeroBlade - a registered trademark - for the air management system.

Someone know the right names?
Bonnet Blades, they sit in the outer two mesh bonnet grilles, an option that can have a bright or dark finish smile
Of course, obvious.