Anyone know what this music is?
Anyone know what this music is?
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Ari

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19,765 posts

239 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I've tried Google and I've tried Shazam, but no joy. Anyone know what this music is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFsiS06FEmI

Thanks in advance, and fingers crossed someone knows it.

Some Gump

13,015 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Generic Lifestyle advert music no. 7?

Kermit power

29,622 posts

237 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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I suspect it was written for the ad. Normally googling a few lines of the lyrics brings up just about anything that's ever been released as a song, but not in this case.

Ari

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19,765 posts

239 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Pretty much the conclusion I came to. Oh well...

Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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It's rubbish! It's no Mini ad that's for sure!

GetCarter

30,813 posts

303 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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Sounds written for ad to me (I used to do it for a living).

Think it's pretty good for what it's trying to do. (Nasty though it is).

Adam B

29,499 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Why not call up their marketing department and ask them what that soulless sappy pap was they created/used?

GetCarter

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303 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Adam B said:
Why not call up their marketing department and ask them what that soulless sappy pap was they created/used?
Soulless sappy pap it may be. I wrote something similar for Cornhill Insurance for a 30 sec ad. many years ago. It landed me £28k in the first 6 month of use. Where there's pap there's brass.

Adam B

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278 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Not knocking the creators, I am knocking the guys that commission such cheese.

Bloody good work if you can get it it seems - do you get paid per play or is it a fixed amount?

Would it not be cheaper to use some nice piece of classical even if you pay the royalties?

GetCarter

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303 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Adam B said:
Not knocking the creators, I am knocking the guys that commission such cheese.

Bloody good work if you can get it it seems - do you get paid per play or is it a fixed amount?

Would it not be cheaper to use some nice piece of classical even if you pay the royalties?
It's all about the royalties. If you can get something that is repeated again and again in lots of countries over decades, you can pretty much retire (Eastenders etc).

Adam B

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278 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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had a google - interesting link

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/mar/29/tvand...

"The biggest way that composers make their money is through repeat fees, which are calculated on a per-minute basis. A piece of music on BBC1, for example, generates a royalty of £48 per minute, while BBC2 pays £46. Channel 4 pays out just £22, but ITV pays a more generous £86, so if a show is long-running or even sold abroad, cash can come rolling in. But still, the amounts generated are not that huge. Simon May, who composed the EastEnders tune, for instance, estimates he only makes around £10,000 per year out of it. "I'd rather I had a pound for every time I'm asked how much I make out of it than the money I do get", he says.

Sorry Ari for the hijack

Kermit power

29,622 posts

237 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Adam B said:
had a google - interesting link

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/mar/29/tvand...

"The biggest way that composers make their money is through repeat fees, which are calculated on a per-minute basis. A piece of music on BBC1, for example, generates a royalty of £48 per minute, while BBC2 pays £46. Channel 4 pays out just £22, but ITV pays a more generous £86, so if a show is long-running or even sold abroad, cash can come rolling in. But still, the amounts generated are not that huge. Simon May, who composed the EastEnders tune, for instance, estimates he only makes around £10,000 per year out of it. "I'd rather I had a pound for every time I'm asked how much I make out of it than the money I do get", he says.

Sorry Ari for the hijack
My mother was friends with the daughter of the bloke who either (can't remember which) wrote the theme tune to Coronation Street or played the trumpet on the recording. Either way, he took her and her family away for a nice 5 star weekend after they introduced multiple weekly shows and omnibus editions! hehe

GetCarter

30,813 posts

303 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Adam B said:
had a google - interesting link

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2000/mar/29/tvand...

"The biggest way that composers make their money is through repeat fees, which are calculated on a per-minute basis. A piece of music on BBC1, for example, generates a royalty of £48 per minute, while BBC2 pays £46. Channel 4 pays out just £22, but ITV pays a more generous £86, so if a show is long-running or even sold abroad, cash can come rolling in. But still, the amounts generated are not that huge. Simon May, who composed the EastEnders tune, for instance, estimates he only makes around £10,000 per year out of it. "I'd rather I had a pound for every time I'm asked how much I make out of it than the money I do get", he says.

Sorry Ari for the hijack
Just for the record, that article was written 16 years ago. Royalties have more than doubled since then.

And Simon May makes a LOT more than £10k a year from Eastenders!

Adam B

29,499 posts

278 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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Certainly a nice way to make a living

GC - have you done any film scores?

GetCarter

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303 months

Tuesday 15th March 2016
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Adam B said:
GC - have you done any film scores?
Not my bag. I write production music which gets used mainly in documentaries/ lifestyle programmes like 'The Apprentice' and so on. It means I can live in daft remote places. Having said that I'm in Islington at the moment, working in the best studio, with the best engineer, and the best session musicians in the UK. ... The biggest perk of my job!

(For those in the know, Angel One, Steve Price, Neal Wilkinson, Paul Clarvis, Frank Ricotti, Chris Lawrence, Gorden Campbell, Nick Holland etc.)


GetCarter

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303 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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For those with too much time on their hands, here's a compo of the recording in Angel on Monday.

You can see I'm covering quite a few bases! wink

http://stevecarter.com/2016compo.mp3

Ari

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239 months

Sunday 20th March 2016
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Adam B said:
Sorry Ari for the hijack
That's quite alright, it's interesting. smile

thebraketester

15,545 posts

162 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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GetCarter said:
Not my bag. I write production music which gets used mainly in documentaries/ lifestyle programmes like 'The Apprentice' and so on. It means I can live in daft remote places. Having said that I'm in Islington at the moment, working in the best studio, with the best engineer, and the best session musicians in the UK. ... The biggest perk of my job!

(For those in the know, Angel One, Steve Price, Neal Wilkinson, Paul Clarvis, Frank Ricotti, Chris Lawrence, Gorden Campbell, Nick Holland etc.)
Yes... I know Neal, Gordon and Nick. Good guys. They are all at the top of their game, as are the rest :-)

Edited by thebraketester on Thursday 24th March 22:30

Simes205

4,970 posts

252 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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GetCarter said:
Adam B said:
GC - have you done any film scores?
Not my bag. I write production music which gets used mainly in documentaries/ lifestyle programmes like 'The Apprentice' and so on. It means I can live in daft remote places. Having said that I'm in Islington at the moment, working in the best studio, with the best engineer, and the best session musicians in the UK. ... The biggest perk of my job!

(For those in the know, Angel One, Steve Price, Neal Wilkinson, Paul Clarvis, Frank Ricotti, Chris Lawrence, Gorden Campbell, Nick Holland etc.)
Paul clarvis taught at the Music college I went back in the nineties. Great drummer.
Frank Ricotti has a good vibe wink!

Edited by Simes205 on Friday 25th March 14:48

Simes205

4,970 posts

252 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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Publishing rights, performance rights, royalties all good.
My wife performed on 4 series of 'last of the summer wine' back in 1999-2002.
She still gets the odd royalty cheque now and then for sales.