Think it's time to change the plugs,
Discussion
My car is on NGK 6s. It is 12 months and 4500 miles since the last service and it is going in on Monday for its service.
I will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.
Back soon with a photo.
I will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.
Back soon with a photo.
QBee said:
My car is on NGK 6s. It is 12 months and 4500 miles since the last service and it is going in on Monday for its service.
I will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.
Back soon with a photo.
Is there a stamp mark on the plug to determine what numberI will pull a plug at random this morning and post a photo as a comparison. My car has run better on the 6s, so much so that my TVR specialist, having seen them on a number of cars, now fits them in preference to the 7s.
Back soon with a photo.
I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.

This one is straight out of my engine and I can confirm after many thousands of miles these plugs work brilliantly... even though some people told me the tips would fall off and destroy my engine
Iridium plugs are more expensive to buy than NGK BPR6ES in the first place, but the extended service life is such they actually work out cheaper in the long run. Iridium plugs are used by all high end and performance car makers so are not a gimmick, NGK are the best spark plug manufacturer bar none and do not sell snake oil products using false claims of performance or economy gains.
My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design (ES).
At the very least fit NGK BPR6ES which will be a big improvement for the same money as the B7ECS, and better still choose the longer lived NGK BPR6EIX iridium.
Hope this helps?
This one is straight out of my engine and I can confirm after many thousands of miles these plugs work brilliantly... even though some people told me the tips would fall off and destroy my engine

Iridium plugs are more expensive to buy than NGK BPR6ES in the first place, but the extended service life is such they actually work out cheaper in the long run. Iridium plugs are used by all high end and performance car makers so are not a gimmick, NGK are the best spark plug manufacturer bar none and do not sell snake oil products using false claims of performance or economy gains.
My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design (ES).
At the very least fit NGK BPR6ES which will be a big improvement for the same money as the B7ECS, and better still choose the longer lived NGK BPR6EIX iridium.
Hope this helps?
Yes, they are NGK BPR6EIX
The "R" means they are resistive.
The "I" means they are iridium, so more expensive but supposedly last several times. When I had a Lexus, the service interval for the iridium plugs was 60,000 miles
.
Pulled out the number 2 plug and here it is.

I have to be fair and say that the car has just come off a track day, but the last thing it did was idle for a bit while I was loading it back onto my trailer for the journey home.
The "R" means they are resistive.
The "I" means they are iridium, so more expensive but supposedly last several times. When I had a Lexus, the service interval for the iridium plugs was 60,000 miles
.
Pulled out the number 2 plug and here it is.
I have to be fair and say that the car has just come off a track day, but the last thing it did was idle for a bit while I was loading it back onto my trailer for the journey home.
What sort of price should I be paying, and have you bought onine (Theres a set of flea bay for £54 with free delivery) or at a motor factor
I'm just going to replace mine to NGK BPR6EIX just for the sake of it
I'm just going to replace mine to NGK BPR6EIX just for the sake of it
Edited by CHIMV8 on Saturday 12th March 10:23
Edited by CHIMV8 on Saturday 12th March 10:24
QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound rightYou will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
NGK BPR6EIX
6637
14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP
CHIMV8 said:
QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound rightYou will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
NGK BPR6EIX
6637
14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP
QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
QBee said:
That's as good a price as I gave seen anywhere.
You will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
Spec below, does they sound rightYou will find the throttle seems just that bit more responsive on the 6s, and of course the car will continue running as if it had just been serviced, because the plugs will always be "as new".
NGK BPR6EIX
6637
14MM THREAD
0.8MM GAP
ChimpOnGas said:
I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.
My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design
My engine is under warranty and performs really well on the B7ECS plugs. While the iridium plugs would probably last forever, if something went wrong then the following words might come into play - warranty/Powers/wrong spec plugs/invalidated/mahooosive repair bill/bank account zero/divorce. My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design

N7GTX said:
ChimpOnGas said:
I can recommend NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs.
My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design
My engine is under warranty and performs really well on the B7ECS plugs. While the iridium plugs would probably last forever, if something went wrong then the following words might come into play - warranty/Powers/wrong spec plugs/invalidated/mahooosive repair bill/bank account zero/divorce. My advice would be to avoid the highly inappropriate NGK B7ECS originally used by TVR, it's really an endurance racing plug so far from ideal for a road car, put simply it's too cold so tends to foul easily and the shrouded design also delivers poor combustion performance when compared with an extended electrode design

Dom is often on PH and might even read this
The ECS plug has a more robust design and especially a stronger ground electrode so is more resistant to damage from detonation etc; that is a fact and likely the reason TVR specced it given the propensity for RV8s to ping when lent on.
If you're cold fouling 7s then you need to push the throttle pedal harder
If you're cold fouling 7s then you need to push the throttle pedal harder

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