Sugar tax - good or bad?
Sugar tax - good or bad?
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chris watton

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22,547 posts

289 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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It seems that in the budget, George Osborne has unveiled a tax on the makers of sugary soft drinks to 'tackle childhood obesity'.
Is this a good idea, Will this help our obesity crisis?

I don't know, I am torn between thinking it's a good idea, but at the same time, is it just a cynical ploy to rake in more taxes for no impact on obesity at all, according to studies in the US, France, Hungary, Finland, Mexico and Denmark.


Edited by chris watton on Wednesday 16th March 16:47

Pieman68

4,292 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Interesting point I have seen made with regards to why it only relates to soft drinks

Why not cereals/cakes/biscuits etc? Surely just as important to reduce sugar content in those as well

chris watton

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22,547 posts

289 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Pieman68 said:
Interesting point I have seen made with regards to why it only relates to soft drinks

Why not cereals/cakes/biscuits etc? Surely just as important to reduce sugar content in those as well
Absolutely! It is in almost everything, even so called healthy mainstream foods, even in foods you'd never guess would contain sugar.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Just another random tax which will have no impact at all on obesity/health.

Composite Guru

2,499 posts

232 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Once again its just a money making thing as they know people will still buy the drinks.

If they really wanted to cut obesity levels then they would implement a maximum level of sugar allowed in 100ml of liquid.

Sugar is supposedly more addictive than cocaine so the people that are hooked will pay whatever in needs to buy the stuff.

I went cold turkey on sugary drinks, sweets and cakes 6 months ago and feel so much better on the inside as I don't get constipated and suffer stomach pains anymore. I now look at sugar loaded food not needing the urge to eat them.

Good riddance I say.

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Pieman68 said:
Interesting point I have seen made with regards to why it only relates to soft drinks

Why not cereals/cakes/biscuits etc? Surely just as important to reduce sugar content in those as well
Exactly it's not a sugar tax at all it's a soft drink tax. Either do something properly or not at all.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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It's a good thing - "everyone" seems to harping on about cutting cholesterol when it's inflammation caused by stuff in processed foods such as sugar that causes the high cholesterol. No inflammation - no high cholesterol.

Mandat

4,614 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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whoami said:
Just another random tax which will have no impact at all on obesity/health.
It probably won't have a significant effect on obesity, etc but at least it will be seen to be doing something positive to discourage sugar consumption.

Also, it if raises some additional tax revenue, then it's a positive to the overall economy and also reduces the chance of other taxes being increased / created.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Mandat said:
whoami said:
Just another random tax which will have no impact at all on obesity/health.
It probably won't have a significant effect on obesity, etc but at least it will be seen to be doing something positive to discourage sugar consumption.

Also, it if raises some additional tax revenue, then it's a positive to the overall economy and also reduces the chance of other taxes being increased / created.
Let's be honest then and state that it's just another general tax.

The jiffle king

7,484 posts

287 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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I've not read it, but is it only the "full sugar drinks" which are impacted, so the diet ones are not? I know that diet drinks can be 50% of the market

jr6yam

1,363 posts

212 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Two things. One, I'm a bit cheesed off about having to pay extra when I have the odd can of pop; just because some feckers haven't got the self control not to drink it all the time.
And Two, the drink makers will just change over to sweeteners which are, arguably, just as bad for health

It's a rubbish tax, which won't raise the amounts projected

Moulder

1,648 posts

241 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Surely it can only be a good thing? It may finally force manufacturers to make diet and lower sugar versions of their drinks.

InfoRetrieval

390 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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whoami said:
Just another random tax which will have no impact at all on obesity/health.
Except it has already been shown to work elsewhere...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/mexic...

MrBarry123

6,102 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Moulder said:
Surely it can only be a good thing? It may finally force manufacturers to make diet and lower sugar versions of their drinks.
They already do. The problem is that people continue to drink the sugar-laden versions.

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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InfoRetrieval said:
whoami said:
Just another random tax which will have no impact at all on obesity/health.
Except it has already been shown to work elsewhere...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/18/mexic...
In what way is it working?

GT03ROB

14,021 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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An irrelevance....makes headlines. That's about it.

carinatauk

1,593 posts

281 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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Like others have said, another tax going to the gubberment.

One step towards justifying food taxation, sadly

As for diet drinks, there's still doubts over potential health issues.

ReallyReallyGood

1,641 posts

159 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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If it was really aimed at childhood obesity, the money raised would be used to subsidise healthier choices. As it stands this is just another tax to add to the list.

PositronicRay

28,951 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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If it raises awareness and focus it's a good thing. wink

The revenue raised is to be redirected into PT for schools, knock on health benefits will also reduce the NHS burden. A good thing no?

As an occasional purchaser, I don't resent the additional cost of pop. In the same way that I didn't resent the price of fags when I was an occasional "on a night out with the lads" kind of smoker.

TurboHatchback

4,236 posts

182 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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I'm all for hugely cutting sugar intake, I think it's bad for you and very addictive (though I still enjoy the odd cake once a week or so). This tax will make no difference however, crap sugary drinks are so cheap that increasing the price by a few % isn't going to put anyone off buying them.