Why don't the police get involved?
Discussion
anothernameitist said:
proof and evidence.
plus crime ridden could result in a riot if the police arrive mob handed.
Best to have some petty crime then a full scale riot?
I once had my car broken into in Germany, the police caught the thieves. I was advised in the police station not to press charges as they were dangerous people and they would never comply with the punishment, I quote "don't press charges, the best thing you can do now is take your belongings and leave the police station, these are people you do no want to face outside a court room"plus crime ridden could result in a riot if the police arrive mob handed.
Best to have some petty crime then a full scale riot?
Bigends said:
Back in the day they would have - it was called Policing. Most forces Dont have enough cops on the books any more to do anything other than react to reported crime and incidents now.
And when they do 'police' and record the relevant crimes top brass tell them to stop going there and recording stuff! Or the locals post Youtube videos of the 'fedz getting up in my grill in my yard' moaning about being policed. Then community leaders winge about the big nasty police officers picking on people.
Meh
tapereel said:
Where I lived the police wouldn't visit and the fire brigade stayed out of harm's way until the car fire burned itself out.
Jasandjules said:
Where I lived the police were too scared to visit.
Well, we've got two, we just need two more Yorkshiremen and there's a comedy scene in therehttp://youtu.be/qlIXn0r0AY8
I have some friends and they are having a baby. They live in a semi in a relatively rough part of town. Next door is a workshy guy with a massive weed habit. It is so bad that the smell is coming through the walls. He clearly has more in the house than just a few wraps.
Each to their own but the pregnant woman is upset that she is basically breathing this in. She knows he is growing plants etc.
The police have been utterly useless. They refused to come out and one day after complaining again they finally dropped by to say that they wouldn't be investigating and to drop it.
The police are utterly useless in most cases and about as trust worthy as a iraqi arms dealer.
Each to their own but the pregnant woman is upset that she is basically breathing this in. She knows he is growing plants etc.
The police have been utterly useless. They refused to come out and one day after complaining again they finally dropped by to say that they wouldn't be investigating and to drop it.
The police are utterly useless in most cases and about as trust worthy as a iraqi arms dealer.
55palfers said:
Gratifying to know that speeding and parking infringements are always policed effectively though....
What percentage of people who speed every day do you think are caught? An incomprehensible fraction.Most parking infringements are council enforced. Police dont have the power to act.
Innowaybored said:
I have some friends and they are having a baby. They live in a semi in a relatively rough part of town. Next door is a workshy guy with a massive weed habit. It is so bad that the smell is coming through the walls. He clearly has more in the house than just a few wraps.
Each to their own but the pregnant woman is upset that she is basically breathing this in. She knows he is growing plants etc.
The police have been utterly useless. They refused to come out and one day after complaining again they finally dropped by to say that they wouldn't be investigating and to drop it.
The police are utterly useless in most cases and about as trust worthy as a iraqi arms dealer.
Out of interest, what force area are you living in? In most forces, cops would be very interested in a serious drug problem. Tell your friends to phone up and complain. Ask to speak to an inspector if you get fobbed off. The fact that she is pregnant should be an aggravating factor. There might not be immediate action, but at the very least there should be some actions put in place. Each to their own but the pregnant woman is upset that she is basically breathing this in. She knows he is growing plants etc.
The police have been utterly useless. They refused to come out and one day after complaining again they finally dropped by to say that they wouldn't be investigating and to drop it.
The police are utterly useless in most cases and about as trust worthy as a iraqi arms dealer.
I'd expect a warrant to be obtained if there's enough information of a cultivation. Although the teams that would do that sort of thing are sort of teams that would get chopped first of all as it's not as important as other areas of policing (response / prisoner process).
We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
55palfers said:
Gratifying to know that speeding and parking infringements are always policed effectively though....
Indeed. The police spend lots of time on parking infringements. Bloody double yellows! La Liga said:
I'd expect a warrant to be obtained if there's enough information of a cultivation. Although the teams that would do that sort of thing are sort of teams that would get chopped first of all as it's not as important as other areas of policing (response / prisoner process).
We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
I didn't mean "Policed" as in carried out by warrant carrying officers of the Constabulary, I meant policed as in "the enforcement of regulations and laws". Never seems to be a shortage of resources for that.We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
55palfers said:
Gratifying to know that speeding and parking infringements are always policed effectively though....
Indeed. The police spend lots of time on parking infringements. Bloody double yellows! I'd be willing to bet there are no where near the resources to meet the demand for parking complaints and speed enforcement from the public.
Even if there were, what should happen? Sack all the parking enforcement people and divert the funds into the police to follow-up on cannabis complaints?
Even if there were, what should happen? Sack all the parking enforcement people and divert the funds into the police to follow-up on cannabis complaints?
La Liga said:
I'd expect a warrant to be obtained if there's enough information of a cultivation. Although the teams that would do that sort of thing are sort of teams that would get chopped first of all as it's not as important as other areas of policing (response / prisoner process).
We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
Last sentence says it all. I'd suggest that in that area only the complainant or complainant plus only one or two are reporting this. Plenty of others know, but possibly they are customers.We used to have a really good capacity for cultivations, but unless they're of a significant size it's unlikely to be much of a priority in reality for a lot of forces now.
They can always make a complaint and ask for explanations as to why nothing is being done / what the state of play is.
In terms of the original question, if you look at heat maps for demand / resourcing then the hot spots are always in high crime areas, so the police are constantly involved in them.
Not enough evidence to persuade a magistrate to grant a warrant.
I had this locally, and in conjunction with a couple of others complained. No action ,as although several others commented on dealing, no one else complained. That was the response when I turned the heat up by asking WHY via county councillor on Police committee. OH-and they didn't have the resources to investigate ,even though they suspected.
Then new folks moved in next door , with disabled kids and plenty of Health/etc visitors. He got raided, and we say more than a few large evidence bags ( turned upside down ???) taken away. Comment from a knowing source was that only time he'd seen this was evidence of cultivation. So INNOWAYBORED- might be the only way for some action to be raised- if friend raises fears with Health visitor/ midwife etc after baby is born and they start to visit.
Long story short - My car was stolen 2 weeks ago from my drive after my house was burgled for the keys. Took the police 3 hours to come out and give me a crime reference number. Having been lucky enough to never had any call to ring the Police I had no idea what to expect.
No, they wont be actively looking for it might show up on ANPR.
Even if they saw it, no traffic cars available for a car theft/burglary. Cops then made a joke about "not being able to catch up in our van"
Over the next few days it became apparent that everytime I rang for an update ( 3 times in 3 days) So I emailed our local MP who raised it with the Inspector for GMP. His reply was basically "We dont have enough officers to patrol known crime areas"
My view is that the Police force is now so grossly undermanned, its no wonder Vehicle crime etc have risen where I live - The crims all know that they can operate unhindered.
No, they wont be actively looking for it might show up on ANPR.
Even if they saw it, no traffic cars available for a car theft/burglary. Cops then made a joke about "not being able to catch up in our van"
Over the next few days it became apparent that everytime I rang for an update ( 3 times in 3 days) So I emailed our local MP who raised it with the Inspector for GMP. His reply was basically "We dont have enough officers to patrol known crime areas"
My view is that the Police force is now so grossly undermanned, its no wonder Vehicle crime etc have risen where I live - The crims all know that they can operate unhindered.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b070rnw4
To sum up the view from the top of GMP, no one will see anything which makes prosecution near impossible....
To sum up the view from the top of GMP, no one will see anything which makes prosecution near impossible....
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