Recommendations for top shelf climbing wheels
Recommendations for top shelf climbing wheels
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Raven Flyer

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1,645 posts

253 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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Ideally under £1500 but am looking for very light/stiff kit.

These wheels must able to cope with descents too so as much as I rate Farr Sport 50s, I wouldn't trust Chinese carbon in the mountains.

Edited by Raven Flyer on Thursday 24th March 17:21

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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In circumstances like this you really do need to speak to a wheel builder who well give you advice based on your weight and riding style. Spoke count, lacing pattern and hub flange length well probably be things to consider

If you want off the shelf, tubular campag bora 35s are worth a look and used throughout the pro peloton on the tough mountain days.

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anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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Rolf prima elan alpha

If you can find a set, they are smashing

http://www.rolfprima.com/elan-alpha/

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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I'd go for 202's.

JustinF

6,795 posts

232 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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American Classic 350's

matt-ITR

892 posts

218 months

Friday 25th March 2016
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American Classic Magnesium wheels are 1220g and would make a nice climbing set.
Maybe a custom set? Tune hubs, 22 mm tubular rims and laser spokes. Should be ~1100g.

But if you want something a bit more all-round, then I would recommend the American Classic Argent wheels. 1370g and semi-aero with plenty of stiffness.

Raven Flyer

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1,645 posts

253 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Of those it's the Boras that most interest me. Great reviews on them.

Hand builds just don't do it for me. Some bloke in a shed can't match the tech depts of the major wheel companies.

Thanks for the ideas.

okgo

42,092 posts

227 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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LOL some bloke in a shed, he's not casting the rims himself, he is using off the shelf rims, spokes and hubs, all better likely for the money than the ste you will get in a factory set. The tech you mention is mostly marketing beyond the obvious differences of deep/shallow 1kg/2kg etc.

Be interesting to know what you think spending £1400 on wheels is going to achieve though? Don't get me wrong, I've spent probably getting on for £5k on wheels, but its only because I have that I know now the difference between a half decent set and the best set is bugger all. And these days even my £100 Fulcrum 7's have surpassed expectation and ride just as well as the £400 kysrium elites I had.

Matt_N

9,035 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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The pros use tubs though which are much more reliable in the braking department than carbon clinchers so if you're set on Boras then get tubs, but I'm guessing you want clinchers?

If it's Boras you want then you be better off with tubs, aero gain, weight saving and more reliable braking than the clincher version.

What goes up must come down and a decent braking surface is going to help you more than a bit of shaved weight.

As Okgo alludes too, 'climbing wheels' will make naff all difference, you're talking a pound or so between the lightest carbon tubs and a decent middling pair of aluminium clinchers.

I bet you could save near on the same weight for a fraction of the price with some decent tyres (-100g), supersonic tubes (-100g) and some ti/carbon skewers (-100g).

Fulcrum Racing Zero always get recommended on similar threads on BR etc.


z4RRSchris

12,516 posts

208 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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I got 202's. mainly because they look cool

G321

678 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Raven Flyer said:


Hand builds just don't do it for me. Some bloke in a shed can't match the tech depts of the major wheel companies.

I have only built wheels in my garage (not my shed!) and the only wheels that have had spokes break were factory built ones. you can get a higher quality wheel set going hand built

broster

496 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Matt_N said:
Fulcrum Racing Zero always get recommended on similar threads on BR etc.
I have these, great wheel. i also have some reynolds aero 46's and to be fair iv noticed no difference in the climbing department for either

il sole

287 posts

173 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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z4RRSchris said:
I got 202's. mainly because they look cool
me too

i previosuly had shamal ultras, which are great climbing wheels, but the 202's have the added benefit of all that aero guff;-)

bakerstreet

5,040 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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okgo said:
LOL some bloke in a shed, he's not casting the rims himself, he is using off the shelf rims, spokes and hubs, all better likely for the money than the ste you will get in a factory set. The tech you mention is mostly marketing beyond the obvious differences of deep/shallow 1kg/2kg etc.

Be interesting to know what you think spending £1400 on wheels is going to achieve though? Don't get me wrong, I've spent probably getting on for £5k on wheels, but its only because I have that I know now the difference between a half decent set and the best set is bugger all. And these days even my £100 Fulcrum 7's have surpassed expectation and ride just as well as the £400 kysrium elites I had.
My guess is he just wants some very expensive wheels for a trip to the alps or similar, which is fine. The 'bloke in the shed' comment says it all really. The idea of hand builts is they can take the best component for each individual part and assemble a wheel that is perfectly suited for your requirements. Also you would be able to easily replace parts that wear or break.

I've been running RS80s for a few years now and I've also tried Dura-Ace C35s and some Fulcrum Zeros (I think) and I really don't think I could tell the difference between them.

Raven Flyer

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1,645 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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bakerstreet said:
My guess is he just wants some very expensive wheels for a trip to the alps or similar, which is fine. The 'bloke in the shed' comment says it all really. The idea of hand builts is they can take the best component for each individual part and assemble a wheel that is perfectly suited for your requirements. Also you would be able to easily replace parts that wear or break.

I've been running RS80s for a few years now and I've also tried Dura-Ace C35s and some Fulcrum Zeros (I think) and I really don't think I could tell the difference between them.
Pretty good guess! We've bought a place in the Alps and I'm putting a bike out there.

202s won the day.

If you are a wheel builder, apologies for the 'bloke in a shed' comment, I'm sure you don't all work in sheds.

My aversion comes from friends that have come home with hand builts that seem to have 100 spokes and are 1kg heavier than the target they started the purchasing conversation with. Agreed they will last forever (and if they don't bits can be replaced), but I'm after something that a manufacturer has tried to push the boundaries with, something a bit special.

In 15,000+ miles, I have never broken anything on a wheel.

okgo

42,092 posts

227 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Push the boundaries and you ended up with Zipp 202's? rofl Could have at least got some Enve's wink

Enjoy.

Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Just lose some weight...

bakerstreet

5,040 posts

194 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Rouleur said:
Just lose some weight...
Whilst this is the right answer and what you should do instead of buying nice wheels and frames etc etc, some of us like the good stuff. I still don't really know if my RS80s make me any faster, but the bike rode much better with them fitted compared to the standard build wheels.

Raven Flyer

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1,645 posts

253 months

Friday 1st April 2016
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okgo said:
Push the boundaries and you ended up with Zipp 202's? rofl Could have at least got some Enve's wink

Enjoy.
I looked at and would have loved ENVE's but out of my budget range.