Official guidance to halve dairy intake to cut obesity!
Official guidance to halve dairy intake to cut obesity!
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chris watton

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22,547 posts

289 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/12204366/Nu...

"Nutritionists say 'baffling' official guidance to halve dairy food intake puts public health at risk

Public Health England, the Government's official advisory body on diet, says reducing milk and cheese is vital to cut obesity"

Does anyone agree with the official guidance? I think it's crazy. Of all the foods to eat less of to reduce obesity, dairy products would be one of the last on the very long list of crap foods, surely!

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 26th March 09:46

944fan

4,962 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Seems a bit stupid to me. Sure there are a lot of calories in cheese but there is also protein, and calcium. Cut out dairy and most people wont be getting anywhere near enough calcium in their diet.


grumbledoak

32,566 posts

262 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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The anti dairy thing has it's roots in deforestation. I doubt those people give two sts about human health.

Driller

8,310 posts

307 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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I thought that from an evolutionary point of view adult mammals did not eat dairy and in fact a lot of adults produce much less or no lactase than they did as kids?

chris watton

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22,547 posts

289 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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All I know is that, since losing my fat and coming from almost 16 stone down to 11 stone, I have been drinking between 2-4 pints of whole milk per day, and plenty of other dairy products, including cheese.

I did cut all the crap that has high sugar content, though - but I wouldn't dream of cutting down on dairy products.

mcelliott

10,477 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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More claptrap from the health food nazis, best ignored.

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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chris watton said:
All I know is that, since losing my fat and coming from almost 16 stone down to 11 stone, I have been drinking between 2-4 pints of whole milk per day, and plenty of other dairy products, including cheese.

I did cut all the crap that has high sugar content, though - but I wouldn't dream of cutting down on dairy products.
If I drank that much milk, I'd definitely be losing a lot of weight.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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First it was saturated fat, then it's sugar, now it's dairy products.

At this rate we'll all be eating grass.

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Monty Python said:
First it was saturated fat, then it's sugar, now it's dairy products.

At this rate we'll all be eating grass.
Suits me fine.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Hoofy said:
Monty Python said:
First it was saturated fat, then it's sugar, now it's dairy products.

At this rate we'll all be eating grass.
Suits me fine.
He said eating, not smoking!

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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V8mate said:
Hoofy said:
Monty Python said:
First it was saturated fat, then it's sugar, now it's dairy products.

At this rate we'll all be eating grass.
Suits me fine.
He said eating, not smoking!
Check my name.

e21Mark

17,485 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Noticed a few anti-dairy videos doing the rounds via Facebook lately. Scaremongering.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

128 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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I love dairy, butter being my greatest sin, oddly though I'm not a heifer.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the 30k (minimum) I walk around Brecon each week with a 15kg (minimum) pack.

Could be my small bones.

Could be that gland thing that stops me from gaining weight.

It's a mystery.

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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e21Mark said:
Noticed a few anti-dairy videos doing the rounds via Facebook lately. Scaremongering.
Jamie Oliver will be on the case shortly. Hang on, he's on a pro-dairy campaign I heard? wink

popeyewhite

23,012 posts

149 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Mothersruin said:
I love dairy, butter being my greatest sin, oddly though I'm not a heifer.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the 30k (minimum) I walk around Brecon each week with a 15kg (minimum) pack.

Could be my small bones.

Could be that gland thing that stops me from gaining weight.

It's a mystery.
Do you have butter on its own? As a meal?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

128 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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popeyewhite said:
Mothersruin said:
I love dairy, butter being my greatest sin, oddly though I'm not a heifer.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the 30k (minimum) I walk around Brecon each week with a 15kg (minimum) pack.

Could be my small bones.

Could be that gland thing that stops me from gaining weight.

It's a mystery.
Do you have butter on its own? As a meal?
Almost, toast is purely a vehicle for tons of butter. Crumpets may as well be submerged in butter.

Hoofy

79,999 posts

311 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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biggrin Tasty, I bet!

e21Mark

17,485 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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I love crumpets.

popeyewhite

23,012 posts

149 months

Saturday 26th March 2016
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Might switch to butter but the spreadable stuff turns to liquid at room temps so I use marg at the moment.

NatAsp

175 posts

157 months

Sunday 27th March 2016
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People really should remember that citing their own anecdotal evidence is not a credible argument *head in hands*

Try sticking to scientific fact. This is what PHE base their guidance on. Some people can thrive on virtually any diet due to genetics, but public bodies need to consider the population as a whole. Just because uncle Terry smoked 20 a day and lived to 103, it doesn't mean smoking's good for you.

Many dairy products are rich in sat fat/cholesterol, which despite the naysayers and little evidence to the contrary, is very strongly linked to obesity and much more importantly chronic disease.

It doesn't take a genius to work out why it's been suggested people cut down.