Advise changing BTL to LTD Co..
Advise changing BTL to LTD Co..
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maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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I currently have a limited company that owns one commercial property outright

I also have a BTL in my personal name; with an approx 60% LTV mortgage ,, which I plan on paying off tomorrow, and then transferring it into the limited company's name.

The reason for this is the new stamp duty changes, I'm currently LWP but I am looking to buy a house with my partner.

Is there any negatives to this, there's something stopping me, and thinking just to sell the BTL and concentrate on the commercial properties; but the family has been in 3 years are quite settled etc, paying off the mortgage does drastically reduce the budget for my own house.. Just very unsure which way to go.



Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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maxest said:
I also have a BTL in my personal name; with an approx 60% LTV mortgage, which I plan on paying off tomorrow, and then transferring it into the limited company's name.

Is there any negatives to this,.....
Yes, you're about to pay Stamp Duty on a house that you already own!

maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Yes, you're about to pay Stamp Duty on a house that you already own!
Sale price is 118k.. So under the threshold?!

98elise

32,704 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Capital Gains Tax?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Seriously, how much is the +3% Stamp Duty going to cost you? Because if you're buying another small place it's going to be the square root of FA compared with all the other costs and issues you'll give yourself.

Flog the BTL, save yourself some Stamp Duty, buy a decent house with no (or smaller) mortgage and live in it free from CGT.

maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Seriously, how much is the +3% Stamp Duty going to cost you? Because if you're buying another small place it's going to be the square root of FA compared with all the other costs and issues you'll give yourself.

Flog the BTL, save yourself some Stamp Duty, buy a decent house with no (or smaller) mortgage and live in it free from CGT.
I was in the process of buying a place at 275k and due to complete this month but the vendor pulled out. So on a similar property again the extra stamp is 8k++

Solicitors fees £400.. Prob same again for the accountant... that's the reason for this thread, understanding what other issues I'll give myself and if it's really worth keeping hold of it

maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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98elise said:
Capital Gains Tax?
I paid 102k.. Spent 6-7k doing it up... Transferring to the LTD Co at 118k so should be any to pay..


Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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maxest said:
I paid 102k.. Spent 6-7k doing it up... Transferring to the LTD Co at 118k so should be any to pay..
Has the word "not" gone missing here somewhere?

maxest

Original Poster:

306 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th March 2016
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Eric Mc said:
maxest said:
I paid 102k.. Spent 6-7k doing it up... Transferring to the LTD Co at 118k so should NOT be any to pay..
Has the word "not" gone missing here somewhere?
Indeed it has..

bayleaf

285 posts

129 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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maxest said:
98elise said:
Capital Gains Tax?
I paid 102k.. Spent 6-7k doing it up... Transferring to the LTD Co at 118k so should be any to pay..
And when you come to sell it, you'll get no relief remember.

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

141 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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maxest said:
Sale price is 118k.. So under the threshold?!
3% starts from zero not £125,000 as per normal stamp duty

maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Rangeroverover said:
maxest said:
Sale price is 118k.. So under the threshold?!
3% starts from zero not £125,000 as per normal stamp duty
Does it count with the other property being a commercial as opposed to residential

I was wanting to get the property transfer completed today, so it wouldn't fall into it anyway

kev1974

4,030 posts

159 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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You can't just "give" the property to a Ltd Company? You would have to effectively "sell" it in to it surely.

Anyway even if you manage to do that, when you do want to sell it in the future, the proceeds will go to the Ltd Co not to you personally. Which is then a separate set of corporation tax issues if you leave the cash there, income tax concerns as you take it out.

maxest

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306 posts

248 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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kev1974 said:
You can't just "give" the property to a Ltd Company? You would have to effectively "sell" it in to it surely.

Anyway even if you manage to do that, when you do want to sell it in the future, the proceeds will go to the Ltd Co not to you personally. Which is then a separate set of corporation tax issues if you leave the cash there, income tax concerns as you take it out.
Correct I'm selling it to the company for 118k

No plans to sell it at all.. But I appreciate what you are saying