Potential earth fault?
Potential earth fault?
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Big Ashy

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492 posts

275 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Evening all, my Griff developed an intermittent electrical fault last year which wasn't too much of a problem but now it is permanent and is a real pain in the arse banghead
Initially once the cooling fans kicked in this then turned the wipers on and the fans turned barely more than an idle. However now if the dipped beam lights are on or the fans kick in this produces the same scenario and all light and indicators come on but very dim along with the operation of wipers and fans?
I suspect this is due to a bad earth or a dead short somewhere which I'm sure will be difficult to locate, has anybody experienced similar or has any pointers?
Any advice or thoughts would be much appreciated, thanks in advance thumbup

dnb

3,330 posts

264 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Look at the earth point under the radiator on one of chassis bolts. I suspect this is where the gremlins are living (Yes, it does sound like it might be earthing related if you've checked the fusebox for not having had the smoke let out...)

hillclimbmanic

674 posts

166 months

Saturday 2nd April 2016
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Plus 1 to the above answer- classic earth fault, located by the radiator.


Manic

Steve_D

13,801 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Rad will need to come out to get at the bolt but that would be where I would start. Offside bolt.

After that earth point to chassis in back of offside wheel well.

Next earth point on top of transmission tunnel hidden under the carpet roughly in line with the bottom edge of the dash.

Steve

Big Ashy

Original Poster:

492 posts

275 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Thanks for your response and advice guys, had a good route round today but couldn't see anything obvious and all looks well and in good order scratchchin

Could not find the Earth at the bottom of the rad but just read Steves post about the rad removal which is probably why grumpy

Was hoping for an easy fix but it appears not........Ahh well, the joys of TVR ownership I suppose, will have another go at it next weekend biggrin

Cheers again guys thumbup

Edited by Big Ashy on Sunday 3rd April 23:51

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

269 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Don't think you need to remove the rad. From memory its accessed through the lower mesh panel at the front end. The bolt should be obvious - looking from the front I think its slightly left of centre on the front bottom rail.
FFG

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

266 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Don't think you need to remove the rad. From memory its accessed through the lower mesh panel at the front end. The bolt should be obvious - looking from the front I think its slightly left of centre on the front bottom rail.
FFG


You can just see the earth terminal tags in this picture.

carsy

3,019 posts

187 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I replaced that earth on mine to one of the arb bracket bolts. Keeps the weather off it a bit more.

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

279 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I had this same set of faults and it was the Earth on the front chassis. As has been said you can get to this without removing the rad, you'll need a socket and a long extension. You'll have to lie on the floor and look under the car. Find the bottom chassis rail on the drivers side and follow it forward. The bolt is screwed into a threaded hole in the very end of the rail.

I got mine off and sprayed them with copper grease and once tightened up all was well again.

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

266 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Another pic. showing position of bolt in chassis frame.

Big Ashy

Original Poster:

492 posts

275 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Evening All,

Managed to get home half handy after work today and with the help and advice as above, as predicted the off side front earth bolt was slack as, not even hand tight clap

This coupled with the earth tag being against fibreglass and a fairly corroded large washer and bolt was the problem mad

Earth tag was cleaned up with a wire brush and I've now fitted the earth tag between two shiny new galv washers and used a new M10 bolt torqued to FT which has sorted the problem out, everything now works again as it should bounce

Once again, many thanks to all for help and advice, initially yesterday I was looking in the wrong place on the back side and top of the front cross member, didn't even occur to me it could be on the front face of the cross member banghead

Cheers beer

BA

Steve_D

13,801 posts

280 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Big Ashy said:
.......This coupled with the earth tag being against fibreglass and a fairly corroded large washer and bolt was the problem mad........
Glad you got it sorted.
It may look like the earth tag is against GF but it is in fact against a brass bush which is built into the layup of the GF body.

Steve