First time buyer mortgage.
First time buyer mortgage.
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Driver Rider

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608 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Hi guys so basically I work for the NHS and I am allied health professional specifically a diagnostic radiographer.

I live in southeast london and I plan to buy my first property for myself in about 18 months time. How can I maximise the amount a lender will be able to borrow me?

I plan on seeing a mortgage advisor this week as felt I should start planning now rather than 3 months before I have my money together. Also you it never ceases to amaze me what people know in our community!

I know it may seem like I am starting a little early but wanted to maximise my chances of getting a good amount from a lender. Also need to know how hard I need to save for the next 18 months. No new motors for me frown for a long while it would seem.

Look forward to your replies.

numtumfutunch

5,174 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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London = Good luck!

You will almost certainly need a humungous deposit and there are plenty of calculators online to see what people will lend you in total

This board has a resident mortgage guy who's antenna is probably twitching now
He has been rec'd plenty of times by others and to be honest Im about to contact him myself as Im due a remortgage to see what he can offer

Cheers

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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FFS don't ask any lender to borrow you any money. That's why they're called 'lenders' smile

Driver Rider

Original Poster:

608 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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@numtumfutunch

I plan on buying on the outskirts of london. I don't mind moving just outside of London. I love my city but I will not be able to afford to live where I grew up which is a shame. So I will embrace somewhere new! I drive or cycle everywhere in fact I will be getting my motorbike license before the year is out, I just want to be within commuting distance of London. I have used the calculators but I make up a lot of my wage with overtime. The calculators aren't great with that I find.

Who is the resident mortgage guy?

@ Jockamn perhaps I used the wrong words, I plan on going to an indie mortgage advisor.

@brickwall that is very helpful. I have no dependents. Looking at prices near me I will not be able to afford 25% deposit. Im looking at 15-20%. Did they look into things like loans, credit cards subscriptions etc?

I know there is a lot online but speaking to people who have been through it can reveal so much more.

Thanks so far guys!

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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When the lender calculates your credit worth they will subtract any credit you have elsewhere. It is imperative that you close all unused credit cards and overdrafts. Even look at the limits on those that remain and see if you can sensibly tweak them downwards.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Jockman said:
When the lender calculates your credit worth they will subtract any credit you have elsewhere. It is imperative that you close all unused credit cards and overdrafts. Even look at the limits on those that remain and see if you can sensibly tweak them downwards.
Incorrect information......

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
When the lender calculates your credit worth they will subtract any credit you have elsewhere. It is imperative that you close all unused credit cards and overdrafts. Even look at the limits on those that remain and see if you can sensibly tweak them downwards.
Incorrect information......
Disagree. HSBC did exactly this to me 18 months ago.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Jockman said:
Disagree. HSBC did exactly this to me 18 months ago.
Then they obviously were concerned that you couldn't afford the mortgage.....no lender I've dealt with has ever told us to tell a client to close down credit cards or reduce overdraft limits.

Telling someone to do that, is giving them advice that isn't correct or symptomatic of the industry as whole but just one lender and how they dealt with your application.....

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
Incorrect information......
Indeed, lowering your limits to near the balances will badly affect your credit score, it makes it look like you are running at the maximum limit of your credit

I lost some 300 points off my credit score doing this a few years ago

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Nickyboy said:
Indeed, lowering your limits to near the balances will badly affect your credit score, it makes it look like you are running at the maximum limit of your credit

I lost some 300 points off my credit score doing this a few years ago
Yep, it's called "headroom"......... smile

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
Then they obviously were concerned that you couldn't afford the mortgage.....no lender I've dealt with has ever told us to tell a client to close down credit cards or reduce overdraft limits.

Telling someone to do that, is giving them advice that isn't correct or symptomatic of the industry as whole but just one lender and how they dealt with your application.....
Yes. It was taking me to the max - since reduced accordingly to build in a bit of comfort.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Sunday 10th April 2016
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Jockman said:
Yes. It was taking me to the max - since reduced accordingly to build in a bit of comfort.
It's just concerning seeing people post things like "It is imperative that you close all unused credit cards and overdrafts" as people can take that "advice" and put it into action when that was something specific to you and your circumstances and possibly not applicable to the OP or anyone else........

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
It's just concerning seeing people post things like "It is imperative that you close all unused credit cards and overdrafts" as people can take that "advice" and put it into action when that was something specific to you and your circumstances and possibly not applicable to the OP or anyone else........
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Jockman said:
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.
And to HSBC..... wink

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.
And to HSBC..... wink
But those Premier lifetime tracker rates sub 60% LTV are sooooooo attractive matey !!!

And they lend until you're 70, something not all lenders do..yet smile

jonnydm

5,108 posts

239 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.
And to HSBC..... wink
Slightly off topic but still FTB mortgage related...

FTB, no dependents, no debt (other than Student Loan), London, 60-70% LTV. Is there any chance of borrowing more than 5 x earnings?

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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jonnydm said:
Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.
And to HSBC..... wink
Slightly off topic but still FTB mortgage related...

FTB, no dependents, no debt (other than Student Loan), London, 60-70% LTV. Is there any chance of borrowing more than 5 x earnings?
No......most FTB multiples are 4x or 4.5x currently....but a couple who do "up to 5x"........plus your student loan deduction will be taken from your affordability too...

jonnydm

5,108 posts

239 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Sarnie said:
jonnydm said:
Sarnie said:
Jockman said:
Conceded. In top trumps Mortgage Broker always beats Joe Public.

The information I posted would only be applicable in cases where people are looking to max out.
And to HSBC..... wink
Slightly off topic but still FTB mortgage related...

FTB, no dependents, no debt (other than Student Loan), London, 60-70% LTV. Is there any chance of borrowing more than 5 x earnings?
No......most FTB multiples are 4x or 4.5x currently....but a couple who do "up to 5x"........plus your student loan deduction will be taken from your affordability too...
Thanks thumbup

Driver Rider

Original Poster:

608 posts

227 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Guys this have been massively helpful to me. I was wondering about closing the credit cards. I had never heard of this. I am in the process of getting a meeting with a broker for an informal chat. I will keep you posted on how I get on.

ETA When you mention lenders giving FTB 4/4.5 time their salary does this include overtime payments or its exclusive of this?

Edited by Driver Rider on Monday 11th April 15:04

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 11th April 2016
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Driver Rider said:
Guys this have been massively helpful to me. I was wondering about closing the credit cards. I had never heard of this. I am in the process of getting a meeting with a broker for an informal chat. I will keep you posted on how I get on.

ETA When you mention lenders giving FTB 4/4.5 time their salary does this include overtime payments or its exclusive of this?

Edited by Driver Rider on Monday 11th April 15:04
No, just basic salary.....lenders will however lend against varying %'s of your overtime income......