First airshows, now trains

[Simpo Two]

Flying Scotsman’s trip from Ely to Norwich cancelled because of fears spectators will get too close to tracks: http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/flying_scotsman_s_trip_...

[Ste1987]

As much as I sympathise with those who wanted to see it lawfully, hopefully it will make these numpties think twice

[blueST]

Some bloke jumped on the track to see it at the East Lancs Railway when I was there. Ruins it for everyone in the end.

[Simpo Two]

Personally I'd be happy to let Darwin get on with the selection process, but I suppose that's not socially acceptable now.

[Cotty]

Simpo Two said:

Personally I'd be happy to let Darwin get on with the selection process, but I suppose that's not socially acceptable now.

I don't suppose the train cares either way.

[PanzerCommander]

I have for a long time been a champion of remove the warning labels from everything and let people get on with it. Natural selection will deal with the morons leaving the rest of us to enjoy life.

[wilfandrowlf]

PanzerCommander said:

I have for a long time been a champion of remove the warning labels from everything and let people get on with it. Natural selection will deal with the morons leaving the rest of us to enjoy life.

^^^^^^^^
This, every time!

[Eric Mc]

I was looking at some old home movie footage of early steam enthusiast events from the early 1960s on BBC4 the other day and back then there was absolutely no restriction on people strolling around on the tracks as the locos manoeuvered about. As far as I know, no steam fans got run over or smacked by a train.

Maybe we are far TOO restrictive these days.

[Europa1]

Cotty said:

Simpo Two said:

Personally I'd be happy to let Darwin get on with the selection process, but I suppose that's not socially acceptable now.

I don't suppose the train cares either way.

The train may not, but it must be a horrific experience for the poor driver.

[PanzerCommander]

Eric Mc said:

I was looking at some old home movie footage of early steam enthusiast events from the early 1960s on BBC4 the other day and back then there was absolutely no restriction on people strolling around on the tracks as the locos manoeuvered about. As far as I know, no steam fans got run over or smacked by a train.

Maybe we are far TOO restrictive these days.

It could well be part of the issue; people have become so used to being told exactly what they can and cannot do they have no common sense to apply in those situations.

To me this is how situations used to work and how they work now.

Use to work: "Hmm that train is big and heavy, if it hits me at best its going to hurt a lot so I am going to keep a safe distance whilst I record my video/take photographs"

How it works now: "There are no signs to say I can't so I'll get as close as I can, because there would be signs telling me it is not safe if it wasn't and if I do get injured I'll sue them for not putting up warning signs"

Edited by PanzerCommander on Tuesday 12th April 09:12

[Kenty]

Probably the best way to let people have a look!

[irocfan]

PanzerCommander said:

It could well be part of the issue; people have become so used to being told exactly what they can and cannot do they have no common sense to apply in those situations.

To me this is how situations used to work and how they work now.

Use to work: "Hmm that train is big and heavy, if it hits me at best its going to hurt a lot so I am going to keep a safe distance whilst I record my video/take photographs"

How it works now: "There are no signs to say I can't so I'll get as close as I can, because there would be signs telling me it is not safe if it wasn't and if I do get injured I'll sue them for not putting up warning signs"

Edited by PanzerCommander on Tuesday 12th April 09:12

I think that that sums up the situation perfectly

[Riley Blue]

Eric Mc said:

I was looking at some old home movie footage of early steam enthusiast events from the early 1960s on BBC4 the other day and back then there was absolutely no restriction on people strolling around on the tracks as the locos manoeuvered about. As far as I know, no steam fans got run over or smacked by a train.

Maybe we are far TOO restrictive these days.

No 'maybe' about it. As a boy, I used to put coins on the rails for trains to flatten, these days a seven year old wouldn't be allowed out unaccompanied. The trouble is, we're now into the second or perhaps even the third generation of mollycoddled, cottonwool wrapped, can't take responsibility for their own actions, state managed 'adults'.

[Eric Mc]

I certainly wasn't advocating that kids should play around main line railway lines. I actually know of a couple of school children who died on our local railway lines back in the 1960s and 70s.

But I do think that well informed enthusiasts at a special event should be allowed a little more leeway.

[Riley Blue]

I just used that as an example of the total freedom children had decades ago. I knew it was wrong then and I wouldn't suggest kids do it now but these days, they're not even allowed to climb trees, get dirty or skin their knees when they play. As a result, we've bred generations of adults unable to take responsibility for their own actions - 'common sense' no longer exists.

[ecsrobin]

Back in the day I doubt rails were electrified.....

[anonymous-user]

ecsrobin said:

Back in the day I doubt rails were electrified.....

Volk's Electric Railway Brighton - 1883

London Underground from 1890

Commuter lines in/out of London from early 1920's

[grumpy52]

It's any event for any social activities.
I have seen rally stages cancelled because the family type spectator won't move from dangerous areas ,many come over all Alpha male about being told where they can and cannot go .

[Eric Mc]

Must be PHers then.

[tilley441]

this was the reason for it stopping last time, not the best video but you can still see the people on the ECML


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwvaFRnvo70