Secondary Decat Pipes on V12VS
Secondary Decat Pipes on V12VS
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CSK1

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1,827 posts

154 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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Anyone had the secondary decat pipes replaced by straight pipes on a V12 Vantage S? Would you recommend having it done? What about warranty, is there a risk having it invalidated? Perhaps better to have them dealer installed. Any fault messages? Did a search on here and alscar came up with a post about taking delivery of his lovely China Grey V12VS from Works with decat pipes replaced by straight QS pipes installed by Works.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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My main dealer has offered to supply fit decat pipes for about a grand.
They have a AM part number so no warranty issues.
When it has its first MOT next year they may need to 'leave' the originals in the boot.
Something they're used to to doing.
Apparently they sound epic!

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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I have Capristo cat delete pipes - IIRC they cost v approx c. £400 +/- 100. But of course you then have to pay to have them fitted

To be fair, if it's an Aston product with an all in price being fitted by an Aston dealer, whilst £1k is a touch more than you could get it done for by other means, it's not totally OTT either

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Yep didn't think it was too bad to be honest.

Chamboy

109 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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I have them on mine (same pair that were previously on the V12V). They are certainly (even) louder on the S I guess due to the smaller rear box. Highly recommended as esp. without fuse22 it's quite a beast!

I checked my original main dealer receipt and it cost me £945 3 years ago, IIRC the parts they fitted carried a Quicksilver badge - I had them 'loose' handed back from the dealer and had my local trusted garage fit them for £75. No warranty issues.

Hope this helps - get 'em on!

Andy

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Yes the dealer ones are Quicksilver.
Available here too -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231733945698

CSK1

Original Poster:

1,827 posts

154 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Thanks for the info guys! I have fuse 15 permanently out, do you think it is too noisy, for instance like on a long distance trip, or is it OK in 7th gear on the motorway? Do you gain any bhp with these? Will probably have them fitted by my dealer when it goes in for a service in September.

AMDBSTony

1,130 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Not wanting to be a spoilsport but there most definately are warranty issues.

One of my mates had QS straight pipes fitted to hos DBS by an AM dealer and unfortunately he had an engine failure due to primary cats being injested.

Outcome was a new engine in his 2 yr old 4k miles DBS at a cost of circa £30k.

AM said manufacturer warranty was void due to cat delete!

After much argument and negotiation AM reluctantly agreed to honour the warranty.

Engine replaced, car sold and a set of as new QS cat delete pipes for sale......still for sale i believe.

Ask the questions and get it in writing from the dealer (no dealer would put in writing for me) would be my advice.


alscar

10,025 posts

243 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Olivier , I have sent you a PM.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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AMDBSTony said:
Not wanting to be a spoilsport but there most definately are warranty issues.

One of my mates had QS straight pipes fitted to hos DBS by an AM dealer and unfortunately he had an engine failure due to primary cats being injested.

Outcome was a new engine in his 2 yr old 4k miles DBS at a cost of circa £30k.

AM said manufacturer warranty was void due to cat delete!

After much argument and negotiation AM reluctantly agreed to honour the warranty.

Engine replaced, car sold and a set of as new QS cat delete pipes for sale......still for sale i believe.

Ask the questions and get it in writing from the dealer (no dealer would put in writing for me) would be my advice.
Wow. Primary cats being injested!?? How odd.

I'll certainly get the warranty cover in writing.


BigScotty

352 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Made my own (V12V)

I love the sound, and no problems on longer trips either.


AMDBSNick

7,221 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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CSK1 said:
Thanks for the info guys! I have fuse 15 permanently out, do you think it is too noisy, for instance like on a long distance trip, or is it OK in 7th gear on the motorway? Do you gain any bhp with these? Will probably have them fitted by my dealer when it goes in for a service in September.
You could always fit the switch http://www.cccharger.co.uk/#!product/prd1/44132030...

AMDBSNick

7,221 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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northernmedia said:
Wow. Primary cats being injested!?? How odd.

I'll certainly get the warranty cover in writing.
Bamford Mike may have something to say about this.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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AMDBSNick said:
northernmedia said:
Wow. Primary cats being injested!?? How odd.

I'll certainly get the warranty cover in writing.
Bamford Mike may have something to say about this.
Something probably very long. biglaugh

CraigV12V

304 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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northernmedia said:
Wow. Primary cats being injested!?? How odd.
Just been told my 4k miler V12VSR (I have only had it for 1k!) has ingested both its cats!!! It happens mad

Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 13th April 16:50


Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 13th April 16:51

V8Andrew

387 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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northernmedia said:
Something probably very long. biglaugh
This thread covers the topic in some detail


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

silverspeed

1,508 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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CraigV12V said:
Just been told my 4k miler V12VSR (I have only had it for 1k!) has ingested both its cats!!! It happens mad

Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 13th April 16:50


Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 13th April 16:51
Wow - what was the cause of that. Scary as mines out of warranty now!

AMDBSNick

7,221 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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silverspeed said:
Wow - what was the cause of that. Scary as mines out of warranty now!
That's where the indies or should we call them "engineers" come into their own wink

CraigV12V

304 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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silverspeed said:
Wow - what was the cause of that. Scary as mines out of warranty now!
We don't know as yet from the dealer, may never know, but you can read BamfordMike's thoughts here http://is.gd/BsQlrj

AMDBSTony

1,130 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th April 2016
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Mates car had a loss of power and was misfiring before smoking from one side of exhaust.

I am not technical but as i understand it, the explosion went into the cat and caused it to break up. The platinum dust is then sucked back into the engine where it can pass from bore to bore and in effect wears the liners away.

As i said, i am not technical so may have it wrong.

I was going to have different manifolds on mine so the cats were nowhere near the cylinder heads. I am told that if I do that my warranty will be void. At least it wouldnt suck the cats back in!!

I understand that its fairly rare for this to happen but nevertheless, it does occur.