UCI suspends Disc Brakes in Racing, post Paris-Roubaix
UCI suspends Disc Brakes in Racing, post Paris-Roubaix
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stongle

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Thursday 14th April 2016
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Didn't take long.

Personally, I think this is the right move. Don't see the need for discs in Racing / Road bikes, other than commuting.

Samcat

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Thursday 14th April 2016
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Link to story?

stongle

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Samcat said:
Link to story?
Ah yes, that (I didn't make it up, honest)...

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/uci-sus...

AndrewEH1

4,922 posts

182 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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But discs are clearly faster with not much of a weight penalty.

Surely the answer is to stop crashing?

feef

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Thursday 14th April 2016
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stongle

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feef said:
Not sure about Lampre's impartiality on this one.... Seriously, discs without shrouds is asking for trouble in a crashat 60-80kms an hour.

WinstonWolf

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268 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Meh, crashing is always going to hurt...

feef

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Thursday 14th April 2016
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stongle said:
Not sure about Lampre's impartiality on this one.... Seriously, discs without shrouds is asking for trouble in a crashat 60-80kms an hour.
Ventoso claims to have landed on the disk, which would require the bike to be upside down, as from above or behind it's nigh on impossible to access a significant proportion of exposed disk (I'm basing this on my CX/Road bike which is disk equipped) as the disk is behind the forks at the front, the chain and rearstays at the rear, and also 'protected' by the caliper itself

That and his gash is on his left leg, the same side the disks are mounted on

Has anyone seen a video of the incident? I can't find any, nor close-up photos of the bike(s) in question

Considering how contentious disk brakes on road bikes have been within the road-cycling community, I wouldn't be surprised if some were actively looking for a reason to have them banned

bakerstreet

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194 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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feef said:
Considering how contentious disk brakes on road bikes have been within the road-cycling community, I wouldn't be surprised if some were actively looking for a reason to have them banned
The bike industry want it to happen. All industries need the 'next bog thing' for people to upgrade to. I come from the Broadcast industry so it was analogue, SDI, standard def, hiigh def, 3D, streaming and now 4k and 8k. Road bikes are the same. Why should you upgrade your Roubaix from the 2013 model when the only difference is paint. If it has new wheels and more importantly disc brakes, that is a big upgrade and off you will go to your nearest specialized concept store to put down a deposit.

The way it is now, Giant could sell you a top Defy Advanced SL for £4k and it wouldn't be legal to race at any event in the UK.

On the face of it, it looks like Giant have invested heavily in disc equipped road bikes.


stongle

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feef said:
Ventoso claims to have landed on the disk, which would require the bike to be upside down, as from above or behind it's nigh on impossible to access a significant proportion of exposed disk (I'm basing this on my CX/Road bike which is disk equipped) as the disk is behind the forks at the front, the chain and rearstays at the rear, and also 'protected' by the caliper itself

That and his gash is on his left leg, the same side the disks are mounted on

Has anyone seen a video of the incident? I can't find any, nor close-up photos of the bike(s) in question

Considering how contentious disk brakes on road bikes have been within the road-cycling community, I wouldn't be surprised if some were actively looking for a reason to have them banned
Hmmmm, OK. So the manufacturers want them to sell more shineys but those riding on them think they are dangerous?

Really?

Given the general standard of club runs and chain gangs I've experienced the last thing the fat bankers, dentists and general goobers need are flying death spinners. Buy better wheels.

Hobzy

1,271 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Surely it hurts a damn sight more landing on a chainset?


neenaw

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218 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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I'd have thought that with some of the recent incidents they'd be better off suspending the use of motorbikes in racing!


frisbee

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139 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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neenaw said:
I'd have thought that with some of the recent incidents they'd be better off suspending the use of motorbikes in racing!
Or switch to motorbikes with drum brakes?

Herman Toothrot

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227 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Load of crap, people fall off mountain bikes way more frequently than road bikes and I've never heard of any one ever contacting the disc that's far larger than road bike discs. As said chain ring is way more accessible in a crash and sharper.

Dowks

449 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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I don't have a view either way but not sure a comparison to MTB crashes is relevant as there are no peletons/pile ups in MTB races?

PomBstard

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271 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Dowks said:
I don't have a view either way but not sure a comparison to MTB crashes is relevant as there are no peletons/pile ups in MTB races?
Not true - have seen plenty of pile ups at mtb races - course is rarely 100% singletrack. A few years ago I narrowly missed a pile up at a slippy corner, came to a halt only for someone to crash into the back of me - snapped their carbon bars - v sharp bits every where. Which bits should we also ban???

Not sure I understand the roadies wanting disk brakes banned as I can only see positives in their use - and yes, I do ride on the road too.

JustinF

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232 months

Thursday 14th April 2016
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Herman Toothrot said:
Load of crap, people fall off mountain bikes way more frequently than road bikes and I've never heard of any one ever contacting the disc that's far larger than road bike discs. As said chain ring is way more accessible in a crash and sharper.
You don't ride down a trail amongst 30 other riders in a pack though, the potential danger isn't from your own bike but that of a competitor you fall into/falls into you.
That being said I'm disappointed at the UCI, they've suspended the trial based on one rider's say so with no evidence that a disk was involved, his claim that a second injury to another rider was also disk based has been comprehensively debunked already, multiple stills of Nikolas Maes' crash show the bikes he crashed into were all from teams running rim brakes, so anyone looking at those shots of stitches in his knee need to reassess their position on what caused it.

http://road.cc/content/tech-news/186146-have-disc-...

A nice light carbon faring will solve most issues and (cynical head on) give the manufacturers something else to sell to the masses.

PomBstard

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Friday 15th April 2016
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JustinF said:
You don't ride down a trail amongst 30 other riders in a pack though.
Again, not true. The incident I mentioned above involved c20 riders and there were another 20-30 of us coming to the incident very quickly behind. Speed heading towards the crash would've been 30-40kmh.

In many mtb races that aren't on singletrack loops its not uncommon to be riding as a pack of 10-30 riders.

Psimpson7

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Friday 15th April 2016
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PomBstard said:
Again, not true. The incident I mentioned above involved c20 riders and there were another 20-30 of us coming to the incident very quickly behind. Speed heading towards the crash would've been 30-40kmh.

In many mtb races that aren't on singletrack loops its not uncommon to be riding as a pack of 10-30 riders.
I have also been caught up in a massive 30ish rider pile up in the first 300m of an XC race. Quite a lot of damage to bikes and people including a broken collarbone for one rider and a chainring tooth going through the right leg of my RockShox SID fork. frown

I agree with comments that the issue they should be sorting at the moment is Motorbikes around the Peloton.

also...
Stongle said:
flying death spinners
rolleyes


I have a roadie with Discs. Its far better than my last one with Rim brakes

Banana Boy

467 posts

142 months

Friday 15th April 2016
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While I'm not a fan of disc brakes on road bikes this is a bit OTT and very 'knee jerky'. Mind you, cycling has never been very good at discreetly hiding it's true/ulterior motives...

I think the UCI and media might be trying so hard to distract people from support vehicle related crashes and incidents that they'll end up focusing fans attention on the issue!