None Of The Used 570'S Seem To Be Moving

None Of The Used 570'S Seem To Be Moving

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Juno

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4,485 posts

264 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Tracking in the classifieds none of these seem to be selling,have the Flippers caught a cold ?

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

185 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Too expensive and people may as well order to spec IMHO. You are in late 12C spider and early 650s Coupe territory at these prices

nutbehinddawheel

344 posts

211 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Juno said:
Tracking in the classifieds none of these seem to be selling,have the Flippers caught a cold ?
Do tell us, why this is so important to you and to everybody else .
Please !!!!

nutbehinddawheel

344 posts

211 months

Sunday 1st May 2016
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Juno said:
Tracking in the classifieds none of these seem to be selling,have the Flippers caught a cold ?
Do tell us, why this is so important to you and to everybody else .
Please !!!!

koorby

175 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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They're not moving because asking £185k for a 570s with lots of CF/Extras is a case of the dealer building too high a spec and then trying to flip it. You can get a great spec 570S for high £150k and that includes the lux and security packs.

My guess is that a LOT of people will be ordering 540C's for not a lot over £135k and they'll look identical and go 97% as fast.

TP321

1,520 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd May 2016
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Not moving because this should be a £130k car not £185k.....for £200k you can have a new 488....come on people..

DT398

1,821 posts

163 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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TP321 said:
Not moving because this should be a £130k car not £185k.....for £200k you can have a new 488....come on people..
Please can you post some links to the new 488s at £200k. Thanks.

TP321

1,520 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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DT398 said:
Please can you post some links to the new 488s at £200k. Thanks.
The list of a 488 is £183k. Russo corsa, black leather, shields, led steering wheel and upgrade wheels. Sorted!

jasonwdh

274 posts

124 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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TP321 said:
DT398 said:
Please can you post some links to the new 488s at £200k. Thanks.
The list of a 488 is £183k. Russo corsa, black leather, shields, led steering wheel and upgrade wheels. Sorted!
there's a 488GTB in Maranellos that is surprisingly similar to your spec waiting to be picked up - not you is it?
it is a thing of beauty but delivery now Dec 2017 for new orders...didn't even ask about the Spider!


TP321

1,520 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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jasonwdh said:
there's a 488GTB in Maranellos that is surprisingly similar to your spec waiting to be picked up - not you is it?
it is a thing of beauty but delivery now Dec 2017 for new orders...didn't even ask about the Spider!
I am not saying that you can get one now, but you can order one and if you don't go crazy with the options it will be very reasonably priced for a Ferrari with 660bhp. My problem with the 570 is that it's the cheap model, the bread and butter one with a list of £143k....to get it to £185k is barmy!

Bispal

1,824 posts

166 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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According to CAR magazine the 488 and 570 are direct rivals (just repeating, not my own words, separate discussion)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/compariso...

The 488 wait until Jan 17 will undoubtedly be delayed so its a 2 year wait. The cheapest advertised available 488 with RHD & VAT is £260,000. An almost new 570s is available at a McLaren dealer for £163,000. That's £100k less, seems like good value in comparison to me? What seems even better is a used 12C at £120-£130k and perhaps thats why the 570's are not moving, if indeed they are not moving? Also as the wait for a 570 is not too long, everyone who wants one has either has one on order or can get one quite quickly so there is no point in getting one in a spec / colour you don't want at a premium?







s2000db

1,262 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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That's funny, as Autocar rate the 488 over a 650S in today's edition lol

ferdi p

1,531 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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s2000db said:
That's funny, as Autocar rate the 488 over a 650S in today's edition lol
st!!

Don't tell RamboLambo!! He loves to quote Autocar & I imagine now he'll cancel his subscription biggrin

s2000db

1,262 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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ferdi p said:
s2000db said:
That's funny, as Autocar rate the 488 over a 650S in today's edition lol
st!!

Don't tell RamboLambo!! He loves to quote Autocar & I imagine now he'll cancel his subscription biggrin
I know, it's an opportunity I couldn't resist!

Mind you, they've yet to compare them on the track yet, so there might be some relief, or sorrow, depending on how it goes.. Lol

Juno

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4,485 posts

264 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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As you need the obvious pointed out to you "Because I was thinking of buying one" DOH
nutbehinddawheel said:
Juno said:
Tracking in the classifieds none of these seem to be selling,have the Flippers caught a cold ?
Do tell us, why this is so important to you and to everybody else .
Please !!!!
Edited by Juno on Wednesday 4th May 20:02

SELON

1,172 posts

144 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Bispal said:
According to CAR magazine the 488 and 570 are direct rivals (just repeating, not my own words, separate discussion)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/compariso...

The 488 wait until Jan 17 will undoubtedly be delayed so its a 2 year wait. The cheapest advertised available 488 with RHD & VAT is £260,000. An almost new 570s is available at a McLaren dealer for £163,000. That's £100k less, seems like good value in comparison to me? What seems even better is a used 12C at £120-£130k and perhaps thats why the 570's are not moving, if indeed they are not moving? Also as the wait for a 570 is not too long, everyone who wants one has either has one on order or can get one quite quickly so there is no point in getting one in a spec / colour you don't want at a premium?
What's astonishing is that McLaren have not just been improving the tech and outright performance with their cars over the past 5 short years, but also really moved their game on with the other non quantifiable factors. So much so that the 570 seems to be getting an identity of its own - and a great one by all accounts. For it to be considered a competitor against the 488 is a huge achievement and one that 570 buyers would be very pleased about, I'm sure.

Earlier on in this, or similar threads, there was concern that there were too many similar Mc models coming out and people wouldn't be able to differentiate. That seems to have been put to bed...and it seems to be f ing quick based upon some of the test drives and customer feedback.

Given that the 650 are mostly spiders and is now well into its 3rd year of production, I wouldn't think there are too many 650 owners, or McLaren, too bothered about the 488 coupe comparison.

ferdi p

1,531 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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SELON said:
What's astonishing is that McLaren have not just been improving the tech and outright performance with their cars over the past 5 short years, but also really moved their game on with the other non quantifiable factors. So much so that the 570 seems to be getting an identity of its own - and a great one by all accounts. For it to be considered a competitor against the 488 is a huge achievement and one that 570 buyers would be very pleased about, I'm sure.

Earlier on in this, or similar threads, there was concern that there were too many similar Mc models coming out and people wouldn't be able to differentiate. That seems to have been put to bed...and it seems to be f ing quick based upon some of the test drives and customer feedback.

Given that the 650 are mostly spiders and is now well into its 3rd year of production, I wouldn't think there are too many 650 owners, or McLaren, too bothered about the 488 coupe comparison.
Sold my (fantastic) 12C spider & really considered buying a new 570S, I cant quite put my finger on why I didn't, great looking machine but something about it felt 'cheap' I know that sound ridiculous but the fit, finish & interior just didn't cut it for me...

Got a 488 coming July & unless it blows my socks off it will probably be sold & a 650 Spider will replace it!

Davey S2

13,281 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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SELON said:
and it seems to be f ing quick based upon some of the test drives and customer feedback.
McLaren went to great lengths at the launch to stress that the 570 was a road car and not really designed as a serious track tool hence no active aero etc.

I don't think anyone could argue that you need more performance than this has for road use.



SELON

1,172 posts

144 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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ferdi p said:
SELON said:
What's astonishing is that McLaren have not just been improving the tech and outright performance with their cars over the past 5 short years, but also really moved their game on with the other non quantifiable factors. So much so that the 570 seems to be getting an identity of its own - and a great one by all accounts. For it to be considered a competitor against the 488 is a huge achievement and one that 570 buyers would be very pleased about, I'm sure.

Earlier on in this, or similar threads, there was concern that there were too many similar Mc models coming out and people wouldn't be able to differentiate. That seems to have been put to bed...and it seems to be f ing quick based upon some of the test drives and customer feedback.

Given that the 650 are mostly spiders and is now well into its 3rd year of production, I wouldn't think there are too many 650 owners, or McLaren, too bothered about the 488 coupe comparison.
Sold my (fantastic) 12C spider & really considered buying a new 570S, I cant quite put my finger on why I didn't, great looking machine but something about it felt 'cheap' I know that sound ridiculous but the fit, finish & interior just didn't cut it for me...

Got a 488 coming July & unless it blows my socks off it will probably be sold & a 650 Spider will replace it!
By all accounts you will have no socks by August then! smile

DaveGB

1,671 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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koorby said:
My guess is that a LOT of people will be ordering 540C's for not a lot over £135k and they'll look identical and go 97% as fast.
+1

Will be interesting to see if the 540 holds the greatest residuals . Gut feel is it will if you don't go OTT on options.