132mph in an Astra van. Really?
132mph in an Astra van. Really?
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mekondelta

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721 posts

289 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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In this Daily Mail article, it says this guy was clocked at 132mph in an Astra van.

Daily Mail article

Modified surely. Can a standard one do that even on a downhill slope?

J4CKO

46,821 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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They have long been the fastest production vehicles in the world, everyone knows that, he hadn't even changed from third, they normally dont get caught as the speed cameras cant register speeds that high.

Here is a video of the prototype Astramax being tested in 83

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDuVCxA5qY

donkmeister

12,841 posts

129 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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The 1.9 CDTi came in 120 and 150bhp variants, the 150bhp variant in an Astra is good for 130mph. So entirely possible it was standard if he had it planted for several miles.

I am aware of several Vectras with this engine running more than 200bhp, so if it was tuned beyond a simple remap then 132mph wouldn't be too hard.

ETA funny how the article/judge seems to be concerned that a midi car-based van (that is just an estate without a rear bench or windows) is capable of this speed.

Edited by donkmeister on Saturday 7th May 10:27

TheLuke

2,218 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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"Wonder what thats hiding". Said no one ever.

Astravan's with Z20's are staples of the british council estate.

A friend of mine has one hehe its good fun.

IntriguedUser

995 posts

150 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I'm sure you can get the Astra van with the 1.8 Z18XE engine, which will do 130mph.


s p a c e m a n

12,058 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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An Astra van was one of the fastest things that I drove for the first couple years of having my license. Having only driven 1 litre hatchbacks for first cars a 1.8 petrol empty astravan is like a rocketship, it was quicker than the car versions due to the lack of interior, the only thing that beat it was an Astra with the rear seats folded down hehe

MrBarry123

6,104 posts

150 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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It doesn't surprise me - I often see Astra vans travelling much, much faster than anyone else on the road.

Yodafone

427 posts

234 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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The 1.7cdti version had 120 showing on speedo that someone i use work with had it up to and that has only 100bhp so I think they more power then what is stated.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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J4CKO said:
They have long been the fastest production vehicles in the world, everyone knows that, he hadn't even changed from third, they normally dont get caught as the speed cameras cant register speeds that high.
yes

Pickled

2,059 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
It doesn't surprise me - I often see Astra vans travelling much, much faster than anyone else on the road.
Normally towing a Mercedes Sprinter as well

Cliftonite

8,738 posts

167 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Was it not proven beyond doubt in a video on an early edition of Jeremy Clarkson's Top Gear that an Astramax van (it must be a white one, though!) is faster off the line than a Ferrari and stays in front until the Ferrari runs out of puff?

silly


s m

24,468 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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mekondelta said:
In this Daily Mail article, it says this guy was clocked at 132mph in an Astra van.

Daily Mail article

Modified surely. Can a standard one do that even on a downhill slope?
Not really surprising at all depending on the engine, especially on a slight downhill rather than the Millbrook bowl where most cars top speeds are measured

Plus like most Vauxhalls they are usually fairly long geared

Saleen836

12,490 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Cliftonite said:
Was it not proven beyond doubt in a video on an early edition of Jeremy Clarkson's Top Gear that an Astramax van (it must be a white one, though!) is faster off the line than a Ferrari and stays in front until the Ferrari runs out of puff?

silly
Top Gear proof...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylj0eQrU_Js

fangio

989 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I was always under the impression that van versions had lower ratio diffs. This equality must be a modern twist.

cat with a hat

1,488 posts

147 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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I've hit an indicated on 140+ in a 10-15 year old car that had about 60bhp when it left the factory with a great run up and a lovely hill. (I could tell it wanted to implode.)

A van with a 120bhp engine would have no problems hitting 130 in the right settings.

Has nobody here driven an underpowered car?


TheJimi

27,681 posts

272 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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"Shocked"

"Stunned"

"...in a VAN"

Jesus Christ, I fking loathe the mail and it's ilk.


powerstroke

10,283 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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cat with a hat said:
I've hit an indicated on 140+ in a 10-15 year old car that had about 60bhp when it left the factory with a great run up and a lovely hill. (I could tell it wanted to implode.)

A van with a 120bhp engine would have no problems hitting 130 in the right settings.

Has nobody here driven an underpowered car?
No they are all powerfully built directors with sportline Audis!!
yes me back in the day doing 40K per year in a heavyly laden1.6 escort diesel van
on an empty motorway it was flat to the floor and the speed varied from 40 to about 95 mph depending on hills 5 gear was a hill detector !!!!!

essIII

363 posts

173 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Donatello tipping said:
My estate will do 155 plus
0-60 5.4secs
Vauxhall Astra estate 300bhp 2.0L turbo
https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vau...
Not quite a remapped 335D though is it.

boyse7en

8,171 posts

194 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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cat with a hat said:
I've hit an indicated on 140+ in a 10-15 year old car that had about 60bhp when it left the factory with a great run up and a lovely hill. (I could tell it wanted to implode.)

A van with a 120bhp engine would have no problems hitting 130 in the right settings.

Has nobody here driven an underpowered car?
How?

A low-powered car will have lower gearing to make up for its lack of power, so I'd imagine it would run out of revs well before getting anywhere near 140mph, even downhill.

DKS

1,910 posts

213 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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I bet he's keeping his mouth shut about a 2.0 petrol turbo under the bonnet. I think the Coupe turbo is capable of 142 or something.
It's not a TDi, anyway, being pedantic....