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b17nns

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18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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An absolute law unto themselves.

I'm about to get regs approval on the extension I want building so 5 weeks ago I wrote to every builder in my yellow pages with a display ad asking if they would be interesting in quoting on the project.

To date I have had one reply. He made an appointment to come and see me today and didnt turn up. When I telephoned him he said he had just won a large job and would not be able to help me afterall.

Does anyone know a good builder in the Staffordshire area?

We havent even broke ground and Im starting to get frustrated.

mutt k

3,964 posts

267 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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My £0.02? Find a good architect. Get him to run the job and sort out builders for you. The extra it costs in fees will be far outweighed by having the job completed properly on time and on budget. I meet far too many people who find someone in the Yellow Pages and then go through nightmares trying to get the job completed.

b17nns

Original Poster:

18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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mutt k said:
Find a good architect.

Got a good architect. She has worked wonders with the planners but does not do project management.

mutt k

3,964 posts

267 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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She must know someone that does that she can recommend. Failing that, there ought to be a building surveying practice in the area that could do it. Try www.rics.org Click on "public" on the left hand side under "who are you" and then you will get a "find a surveyor" option.

cliffe_mafia

1,731 posts

267 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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At the moment we're in the same boat as you B17nns... I was going to do the same topic.

Plans have been given to recommended builders and the two we chose are both a week overdue with there quotes. It was hard work getting them to even turn up!

The problem is that they can pick and choose... a lot of people are extending because the house prices are so daft.

I'd heard about the project manager option but thought it was overkill on a one room extension.

Hope all goes well for you.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Building is skilled and difficult work. It's best not carried out by builders for that reason. This is especially important in staffordshire because of all the unemployed clayheads who decide to become builders.

b17nns

Original Poster:

18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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cliffe_mafia said:
Hope all goes well for you.

Likewise.

Agree that a project manager is probably overkill. Was even considering project managing myself but seeing as I can't even get one company to quote on the whole job I don't fancy trying to organise all the trades myself.

Just can't believe I can't find a reputable builder to give a £30k job to .

b17nns

Original Poster:

18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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nonegreen said:
Building is skilled and difficult work. It's best not carried out by builders for that reason. This is especially important in staffordshire because of all the unemployed clayheads who decide to become builders.


srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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b17nns said:
Does anyone know a good builder

I know a cheap "Mr O'Reilly" and a more expensive "Mr Stubbs".

zax

1,070 posts

292 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Don't get me started on builders. Even with an excellent architect and project manager, you're still at the mercy of idle, untalented wasters who will stand around smoking all day, do a half-arsed mess of a job and then have the nerve to get ratty when you refuse to pay them for not meeting the terms of their contract

Bitter? Who, me?

Next time I'll bloody do it all myself...

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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[smug mode]

I know an excellent builder. He comes round to my house to price up any jobs we need doing when it suits us.

He has a waiting list but does all his jobs according to urgency - that of the work, not the client.

If he quotes you £1K for the job the bill will be exactly that or less.

He knows his stuff and if it's outside his knowledge he knows who to speak to.

He has NEVER advertised, nor did his dad who he took over from a few years ago when dad retired. Having said that dad pops out to help from time to time when all hands are commited and there is an urgent job on.

Oh, and he's never gone bust in 10 years of trading and neither did his Dad who started up in 1960's.

[/smug mode]

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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You'll always find the best builders are always busy. Sometimes it's worth waiting. Talking from experience, 25 yrs +.

wedge girl

4,688 posts

268 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Can't help in your area I'm afraid.

Only consider one who has been referred to you by someone who is happy with the work they've had done.

Once you've found a good one, look after them, lots of tea and biscuits.

My plasterer arrived today to plaster a ceiling, took one look at it, and said I'd be wasting my money as it was in good condition(it was under hideous wallpaper when he quoted) this would have lost him a few notes, but I found him a couple of other ceilings

Unlike the bunch of cowboys my insurers appointed to repair/replace my locks, cr@p job, no security screws available and tried to book an hours time for 10 minutes work with a break.

mechsympathy

58,535 posts

284 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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wedge girl said:
Only consider one who has been referred to you by someone who is happy with the work they've had done.

Once you've found a good one, look after them, lots of tea and biscuits.


And even then be aware that things may go wrong...


We had a bloke (plasterer by trade) who did a great job of the outside of our house, including getting a roofer etc when work needed doing that he couldn't do. We arranged to have him rebuild a garage, and cos he's busy we were waiting for him to become free.

Work starts, the old garage goes in a skip on Monday and on Tuesday I get back from work to find the wife and her dad a bit flustered.

It turns out Nick the plasterer has a bit of a mental health history and has been sectioned and taken into the local mental institute He's had a manic turn and taken on far too much work (and some characters he met down the pub to help out)

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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I was very lucky with my builder, I got him from the Yellow Pages and he has been a diamond.

Try friends locally ask them if they know anyone.