WESTFIELD HELP!!!!!!!!!
WESTFIELD HELP!!!!!!!!!
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MarcDrury

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20 posts

115 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Hi everyone, first time on here so here goes. I'm looking at buying a factory built Westfield Se widebody that has sat for 10 years or so under a cover on a driveway, it has a Ford 1600cc engine and was built in 1996 by Westfield. I would like to get people's ideas on how much it would cost me to renew all of the items that would have perished over time such as the brake system, cooling system etc. I still need to find out if the engine cranks over. The british racing green paintwork is in good condition as are the original wheels, I just need to know of this car is worth my time and money, so if anyone is in the know and has experience with Westfield's then please pass on your knowledge, thank you

Mr MXT

7,772 posts

303 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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What's the chassis condition like?

Gad-Westy

16,058 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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MarcDrury said:
Hi everyone, first time on here so here goes. I'm looking at buying a factory built Westfield Se widebody that has sat for 10 years or so under a cover on a driveway, it has a Ford 1600cc engine and was built in 1996 by Westfield. I would like to get people's ideas on how much it would cost me to renew all of the items that would have perished over time such as the brake system, cooling system etc. I still need to find out if the engine cranks over. The british racing green paintwork is in good condition as are the original wheels, I just need to know of this car is worth my time and money, so if anyone is in the know and has experience with Westfield's then please pass on your knowledge, thank you
Whether it's worth buying over one that is already in good fettle will just be down to how much money you're saving so hard to pass judgement.

The good news is that nearly everything is cheap and easy. A lot of parts are Ford or other easily bought stuff. Rubber stuff tends to suffer most by standing. So cooling system is a good bet, suspension bushes, exhaust hangers, engine mounts etc. Brake lines might be fine though probably worth replacing the flexi lines to be on the safe side.

Different schools of thought on turning the engine over but I've followed the route of taking plugs out, squirt some oil into the cylinders and turn it over on the starter motor. Would then think about replacing all fluids inc gearbox and diff oil. None of this stuff is difficult that I can think of. They're very simple cars with good access to most stuff and a good support community to help out with advice and parts.

Presume this is a CVH engine?

Gad-Westy

16,058 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Mr MXT said:
What's the chassis condition like?
This is a good question. Should have thought to mention that myself. Powder coating can flake off, exposing bare metal. Fine if it's dealt with quickly but can get serious it isn't.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

283 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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TBH if you're asking these questions unless it's free, it isn't the car for you.

I've bought cars that have sat for longer, put a can of fuel in them, blown up the tyres, started on a jump pack and driven to the MOT.


OverSteery

3,794 posts

251 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Are you looking for a cost of parts (and you are doing all the work) or labour too?

At the end it'll probably have cost more than its market value (ie cheaper just to buy a good one)

If you are serious then get your self over to http://www.wscc.co.uk/boardroom.htm

Edited by OverSteery on Monday 9th May 08:22

MarcDrury

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20 posts

115 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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I'm going to have a second look this week sometime with my mechanic so I'll have to check the chassis, I'm totally new to this hence the questions it just seemed to be a good deal as it sat, the seller wants about 1700 for it and I'm thinking of I speak to 2k on it I've got a 5-6k car for a little less than 4k, thanks for your help!

Gad-Westy

16,058 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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MarcDrury said:
I'm going to have a second look this week sometime with my mechanic so I'll have to check the chassis, I'm totally new to this hence the questions it just seemed to be a good deal as it sat, the seller wants about 1700 for it and I'm thinking of I speak to 2k on it I've got a 5-6k car for a little less than 4k, thanks for your help!
That does sound very reasonable. At that price, focus on the chassis (you really need to be underneath it) and condition of the GRP. It's highly unlikely that anything else could make it uneconomical IMO.

MarcDrury

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20 posts

115 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Thanks for the help, since I saw it on Saturday I've not stopped thinking about it haha, I'm sure all the Westy owners on here know what this excitement feels like, I know the roof is still brand new in the box, never used, the owner used to drive it up to Westfield in Dudley for the service every year so I know own it's been taken care of. How has he Westfield market been over the past year or so? This is literally my first experience with a westfield so I've never thought to look, thanks again

lewisco

381 posts

139 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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I fished building my Westfield last year. I know the feeling you get once you know you want one.

There are lots of really helpful people at the Westfield Sports Car Club that will be able to help too.

Gad-Westy

16,058 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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MarcDrury said:
Thanks for the help, since I saw it on Saturday I've not stopped thinking about it haha, I'm sure all the Westy owners on here know what this excitement feels like, I know the roof is still brand new in the box, never used, the owner used to drive it up to Westfield in Dudley for the service every year so I know own it's been taken care of. How has he Westfield market been over the past year or so? This is literally my first experience with a westfield so I've never thought to look, thanks again
Couldn't sleep before I bought my first. Couldn't sleep after I bought it either come to think of it. They're pretty exciting! You might find the hood hasn't faired too well if it's been folded in a box for 20 years but I always hated the hoods anyway. Nightmare to put on and do little to stop you getting soaked if the road is very wet. Aeroscreen, helmet and appropriate clothing is the only way to travel!

MarcDrury

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20 posts

115 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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So would you say that if the body and chassis are good it's worth me buying it for 1600 - 1700?

Risky

167 posts

245 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Shouldn't this topic be here. http://www.wscc.co.uk/boardroom.htm

MarcDrury

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115 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Risky said:
Shouldn't this topic be here. http://www.wscc.co.uk/boardroom.htm
I can't imagine it matters that much mate

justleanitupabit

205 posts

127 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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I'd personally ask this in the Kit Car section rather than the section dedicated to Caterhams....there may be more Westfield owners in there.

Eric Mc

124,484 posts

285 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Agreed.

I think Westfields are great little cars - but this forum is for Caterhams rather than "Seven Type Cars of all makes".

fergus

6,430 posts

295 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Agreed.

I think Westfields are great little cars - but this forum is for Caterhams rather than "Seven Type Cars of all makes".
Even though a significant proportion of the cars are very similar, engines, donor parts, etc......


Risky

167 posts

245 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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"Even though a significant proportion of the cars are veryEven though a significant proportion of the cars are very similar, engines, donor parts, etc...... similar, engines, donor parts, etc...... "
That's news to me. I think you'll struggle to find any common parts.

I just think the original poster will get better information from Westfield owners who are familiar with the cars.

Eric Mc

124,484 posts

285 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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fergus said:
Eric Mc said:
Agreed.

I think Westfields are great little cars - but this forum is for Caterhams rather than "Seven Type Cars of all makes".
Even though a significant proportion of the cars are very similar, engines, donor parts, etc......
That might have been true for very early Wesfields but once Caterham won their court case it was stipulated by the legal decision that Westfields couldn't be too close to the Caterham in underlying design etc.

That is almost 30 years ago and since then both cars have evolved in their own ways - whilst keeping close to the principle of what the cars are supposed to encapsulate.

I like all Seven inspired type cars.

fergus

6,430 posts

295 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Eric Mc said:
That might have been true for very early Wesfields but once Caterham won their court case it was stipulated by the legal decision that Westfields couldn't be too close to the Caterham in underlying design
So Westfield evolved their chassis' at a faster rate than Caterham did. At least that prevents them being too similar.