Went for a spin!!
Went for a spin!!
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Danattheopticians

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375 posts

131 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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OK to start with, I'm fine and so is my girlfriend. The car has suffered damage that could be described as a mere flesh wound! I've got to consider myself as lucky. I was driving home from a glorious day out in Swanage yesterday and got a little bit enthusiastic with my driving. The car hit a bend at a speed I thought it could carry (Still do) but the back end started to slide out. I couldn't catch it and then panicked and braked. It felt as though it took forever to slow down and then the slide became a 180° spin, off the road backwards into a hedge. I'm so lucky, I barely brushed the hedge, missed a tree by about a foot!! and got covered in mud.
I'm sure it was not just my driving (Although some of it was) that caused it to go this dramatically and without warning and something else went wrong? Dirt/Diesel who knows. Another thing I am pretty sure is not helping the car's road holding are my tyres, they were brand new when I bought the car in December so didn't want to waste them but I've been frightened into looking in to getting the right ones fitted, seen a lot of advice on the forums already and believe this will make a difference.

N7GTX

8,302 posts

172 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Glad you escaped ok. I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread. After reading all the advice on here, I fitted the Rainsport 3s and they are as good as everyone says. No more wheel spin under full loud pedal.

bobfather

11,197 posts

284 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Sorry to read this, it could happen to any of us. Truth is though that it's all your fault as it was my fault when I spun in my daily driver on a damp roundabout probably due to diesel spillage. Certainly you need the right tyres and the right pressures (not necessarily book pressures as those were based on stiff sidewall tyres that are no longer produced).

Don't let it spoil your enjoyment, it comes with the territory cool

Danattheopticians

Original Poster:

375 posts

131 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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^^^ Yeah I have to accept it's my fault. I'm just shocked at how easy it went. It's all learning. I have never owned a sports car of any kind and then I jump straight into a car with this kind of power to weight, no driver aids, and RWD so you have to learn fast! laugh

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Fit suitable tyres, (the best you can afford!) and you won't have a problem.

Rainsports, R1R's and similar top end tyres.

These cars with correctly set up suspension and good tyres will handle brilliantly.

I once compared a standard chim with mine back to back on country lanes, chalk and cheese.

The standard car had worn wallowy suspension and old tyres. No wonder it felt dangerous.

TV8

3,524 posts

204 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Glad it has all ended relatively ok. What are the tyres and what tyre pressures are you running?

Hoofa

3,153 posts

237 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Fit traction control !!! It helps

Yex 450

4,610 posts

249 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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N7GTX said:
I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread.
Had this yesterday at the Lotus track day. My tyres still have at least 5mm tread all over them but "went off" quickly on the 3rd session, probably due to being pushed and the hot weather. However, it backs up the advice I have always seen being given on here that the age of the tyres is nearly as important as the wear on them. As pointed out by Phazed below buy top end tyres for these cars and have the suspension set up correctly and they are a very good drive.

My new Yoko's are being fitted in two weeks so will be back to nice handling then biggrin

Danattheopticians

Original Poster:

375 posts

131 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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TV8 said:
Glad it has all ended relatively ok. What are the tyres and what tyre pressures are you running?
They are Dunlop Sport 9000, 205/55ZR15 Front, 225/50 ZR16 Rear to 23/26 psi.

TV8

3,524 posts

204 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Danattheopticians said:
They are Dunlop Sport 9000, 205/55ZR15 Front, 225/50 ZR16 Rear to 23/26 psi.
Tyre pressure are ok. Re the tyres, I would be surprised if they were that bad in isolation to cause a problem on their own. Are you happy with everything else on the suspension etc?

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Badly aligned suspension can cause this.
Chimaeras are particularly sensitive to it.
My car felt like it was trying to kill me when I first had it, but now it handles beautifully...

Spend £100 having the car put on a Hunter machine for a four wheel alignment by a good TVR place, and your enjoyment of the car will increase out of all proportion. But you must go to someone who knows WTF he's doing, and has the proper computer kit.

phazed

22,464 posts

233 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Dunlops.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Dunlop/SP-Sport-...

Toyo, (personal choice for a road tyre).

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/R1R.htm

It may have been something else but these tyres are superb on the road.

blueg33

46,401 posts

253 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Those tyres will be pretty old. What is the date on them? Tyre compounds can go hard with age and this could have contributed to the effect when you braked.

If you are not used to powerful rwd cars, get yourself some instruction on a track. There are various places that do it. It will make you safer, more confident and quicker

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Uniroyal Rainsport 3s - I have them on my Saab, and they are fantastic. Soft compound, so loads of grip, and awesome in the wet. Lasted 21,000 miles on the front (FWD car) and still 6mm on the rear after 27,000 miles.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainspo...

Jhonno

6,430 posts

170 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Yex 450 said:
N7GTX said:
I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread.
Had this yesterday at the Lotus track day. My tyres still have at least 5mm tread all over them but "went off" quickly on the 3rd session, probably due to being pushed and the hot weather. However, it backs up the advice I have always seen being given on here that the age of the tyres is nearly as important as the wear on them. As pointed out by Phazed below buy top end tyres for these cars and have the suspension set up correctly and they are a very good drive.

My new Yoko's are being fitted in two weeks so will be back to nice handling then biggrin
Where are you buying your "new" tyres from?

Yex 450

4,610 posts

249 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Jhonno said:
Yex 450 said:
N7GTX said:
I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread.
Had this yesterday at the Lotus track day. My tyres still have at least 5mm tread all over them but "went off" quickly on the 3rd session, probably due to being pushed and the hot weather. However, it backs up the advice I have always seen being given on here that the age of the tyres is nearly as important as the wear on them. As pointed out by Phazed below buy top end tyres for these cars and have the suspension set up correctly and they are a very good drive.

My new Yoko's are being fitted in two weeks so will be back to nice handling then biggrin
Where are you buying your "new" tyres from?
Event tyres, any issues I should know about ?

Jhonno

6,430 posts

170 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Yex 450 said:
Jhonno said:
Yex 450 said:
N7GTX said:
I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread.
Had this yesterday at the Lotus track day. My tyres still have at least 5mm tread all over them but "went off" quickly on the 3rd session, probably due to being pushed and the hot weather. However, it backs up the advice I have always seen being given on here that the age of the tyres is nearly as important as the wear on them. As pointed out by Phazed below buy top end tyres for these cars and have the suspension set up correctly and they are a very good drive.

My new Yoko's are being fitted in two weeks so will be back to nice handling then biggrin
Where are you buying your "new" tyres from?
Event tyres, any issues I should know about ?
I would check the date on them still.. I have been told Protyre and Kwikfit are the biggest stockists of tyres, Protyre keep tyres 6 months from out of the mould, Kwikfit 12 months, and other places mostly sell the tyres they return.. My Conti's I got from Camskill 2 years ago, are 5yrs old now.

macdeb

8,757 posts

284 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Sorry to hear this and glad you're ok. Don't beat yourself up about it as it CAN happen to anyone.

Yex 450

4,610 posts

249 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Jhonno said:
Yex 450 said:
Jhonno said:
Yex 450 said:
N7GTX said:
I had slippery issues on my original tyres even with 6mm tread.
Had this yesterday at the Lotus track day. My tyres still have at least 5mm tread all over them but "went off" quickly on the 3rd session, probably due to being pushed and the hot weather. However, it backs up the advice I have always seen being given on here that the age of the tyres is nearly as important as the wear on them. As pointed out by Phazed below buy top end tyres for these cars and have the suspension set up correctly and they are a very good drive.

My new Yoko's are being fitted in two weeks so will be back to nice handling then biggrin
Where are you buying your "new" tyres from?
Event tyres, any issues I should know about ?
I would check the date on them still.. I have been told Protyre and Kwikfit are the biggest stockists of tyres, Protyre keep tyres 6 months from out of the mould, Kwikfit 12 months, and other places mostly sell the tyres they return.. My Conti's I got from Camskill 2 years ago, are 5yrs old now.
Cheers for the tip thumbup

Event have a good reputation but I will check the tyre wall when the van arrives.

Danattheopticians

Original Poster:

375 posts

131 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Thanks all for your feedback. I passed my driving test 17 years ago but now, on top of getting some better rubber - balancing and aligning wheels etc.. I may now need to learn how to "drive"