Air cooled P's - hype or actually good drivers car?
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Ive never owned an air cooled car and been thinking with all the price increases and positive reviews from owners I should get on the bandwagon.
Im thinking to sell my m4 which should leave enough room to get a clean 993 C2 (Im also 6ft 4 so hope I fit)
I bought the m4 as it was meant to be my daily but dont really end driving it that much and im lucky enough to have other toys for the weekend.
Im also getting rid of my track spec e46 m3 and instead would track the 993 (around 5 track days a year) Good idea? Do you like your 993? Would track costs be similar to the m3? Thanks for reading
Im thinking to sell my m4 which should leave enough room to get a clean 993 C2 (Im also 6ft 4 so hope I fit)
I bought the m4 as it was meant to be my daily but dont really end driving it that much and im lucky enough to have other toys for the weekend.
Im also getting rid of my track spec e46 m3 and instead would track the 993 (around 5 track days a year) Good idea? Do you like your 993? Would track costs be similar to the m3? Thanks for reading
My 993 C2S is a right hoot on track, it's a car that requires commitment, but the feedback is simply awesome. You have to learn how to drive an aircooled fast, so technically it's a great exercise. Your M4 will be far quicker, but I recon a lot less fun.
Lots of faster stuff out there for less money, especially anything made in the last 5 years or so, but the 993 does sound stunning, and you'll be the coolest boy on the track.....
Lots of faster stuff out there for less money, especially anything made in the last 5 years or so, but the 993 does sound stunning, and you'll be the coolest boy on the track.....
I think you might struggle for leg room to be honest in a 993, although I do believe the seat runners can be modified to increase travel if required.
There's also a '911 experience' that can be done at the PEC Silverstone, you get to drive a 911 3.2 I think, followed by a 993 and 991.
That's the only time I drove a 993 and I did quite like it, apart from the lack of legroom as I mentioned.
There's also a '911 experience' that can be done at the PEC Silverstone, you get to drive a 911 3.2 I think, followed by a 993 and 991.
That's the only time I drove a 993 and I did quite like it, apart from the lack of legroom as I mentioned.
richyd said:
My 993 C2S is a right hoot on track, it's a car that requires commitment, but the feedback is simply awesome. You have to learn how to drive an aircooled fast, so technically it's a great exercise. Your M4 will be far quicker, but I recon a lot less fun.
Lots of faster stuff out there for less money, especially anything made in the last 5 years or so, but the 993 does sound stunning, and you'll be the coolest boy on the track.....
sounds great, everyone seems to have nothing but praise for these carsLots of faster stuff out there for less money, especially anything made in the last 5 years or so, but the 993 does sound stunning, and you'll be the coolest boy on the track.....
I can't take my 993 on track days as its to loud
A friend of mine is one of the organisers of a charity Porsche track day at Goodwood for the last couple of years.Its normally Sept/Oct time,there will be plenty of aircooleds tracing on that day
I will tell him about this thred and get him add to it
A friend of mine is one of the organisers of a charity Porsche track day at Goodwood for the last couple of years.Its normally Sept/Oct time,there will be plenty of aircooleds tracing on that day I will tell him about this thred and get him add to it
stef1808 said:
Ive never owned an air cooled car and been thinking with all the price increases and positive reviews from owners I should get on the bandwagon.
Im thinking to sell my m4 which should leave enough room to get a clean 993 C2 (Im also 6ft 4 so hope I fit)
I bought the m4 as it was meant to be my daily but dont really end driving it that much and im lucky enough to have other toys for the weekend.
Im also getting rid of my track spec e46 m3 and instead would track the 993 (around 5 track days a year) Good idea? Do you like your 993? Would track costs be similar to the m3? Thanks for reading
As the boys have said, with standard seats 6ft4 plus a helmet doesn't work.Im thinking to sell my m4 which should leave enough room to get a clean 993 C2 (Im also 6ft 4 so hope I fit)
I bought the m4 as it was meant to be my daily but dont really end driving it that much and im lucky enough to have other toys for the weekend.
Im also getting rid of my track spec e46 m3 and instead would track the 993 (around 5 track days a year) Good idea? Do you like your 993? Would track costs be similar to the m3? Thanks for reading
I'm 6ft0.5 and with a helmet and sunroof I can only just fit - most 993 C2s seem to have a sunroof.
But you could address this with a dedicated seat/runners.
richyd said:
My 993 C2S is a right hoot on track, it's a car that requires commitment, but the feedback is simply awesome. You have to learn how to drive an aircooled fast, so technically it's a great exercise. Your M4 will be far quicker, but I recon a lot less fun.
This.I have driven a few cars to the extreme, and the feedback on the 993 (with a suspension-setup that suits you) is simply brilliant - challenging, rewarding, and every trip gives you a new insight and opens a new doorway.
If you want to be part of the machine, the control-weights, the connectivity, the absorption that the 993 gives you, with the everyday usability, is... perfect.
I am one of the Three Wise Men that organise the Porsche/Charity Goodwood trackday, so come along and get some rides in the a/c cars on track - every flavour will be there.
Highway is correct on one count though
- the prices have already risen.Wiser slipper-wearers will correct me if wrong I'm sure, but there was a very-large change in the rear suspension setup from trailing rear-arms on the 964 to the rear multi-link cage-thing on the 993 (stolen from the stillborn 989)
If you want the higher levels of feedback and challenge of the older cars, that might be your answer - for me the feedback/challenge of the 993 is just *right*, combined with the relative modernity and the fact that MrsOC drives and enjoys the 993 means that it's become a keeper.
If you want the higher levels of feedback and challenge of the older cars, that might be your answer - for me the feedback/challenge of the 993 is just *right*, combined with the relative modernity and the fact that MrsOC drives and enjoys the 993 means that it's become a keeper.
If I wanted a 'classic' aircooled road car, I'd go for a 993 or 3.2 G50 (Coupes of course).
But, as a fast road/track day toy, then as suggested above, I'd be buying or creating something based on the 964.
They're all good drivers' cars because they are that bit more demanding and rewarding than more modern stuff.
But, as a fast road/track day toy, then as suggested above, I'd be buying or creating something based on the 964.
They're all good drivers' cars because they are that bit more demanding and rewarding than more modern stuff.
I think its worth you driving a 993 first as the air cooled cars are not for everybody. They are marmite, you will either hate or love them.
As others have said, there is a significant difference in handling between the 964 and 993 due to the rear weissach suspension set up on the 993. This is totally a personal preference.
Good luck!
As others have said, there is a significant difference in handling between the 964 and 993 due to the rear weissach suspension set up on the 993. This is totally a personal preference.
Good luck!
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