Sending back speeding NIP loophole
Sending back speeding NIP loophole
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techmoan

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127 posts

133 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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I know I should never trust pub talk, but someone said last night he successfully got out of a speeding ticket by sending back the NIP unopened with the words 'Found in street, return to sender' on the envelope. A new one arrived obviously over the time limit.

True or utter tosh?

Monty Python

4,813 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Utter tosh

"The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that they believe that it arrived, but there may be a defence available if the intended recipient can convince a Court that the notice did not arrive in time or at all. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver, with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence."

4rephill

5,168 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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techmoan said:
I know I should never trust pub talk, but someone said last night he successfully got out of a speeding ticket by sending back the NIP unopened with the words 'Found in street, return to sender' on the envelope. A new one arrived obviously over the time limit.

True or utter tosh?
Take a wild guess! (and try a Google search on the subject of NIP deliveries!)

Think about it - If it were that easy then everybody who ever received a NIP would do it, forcing the authorities to change the way they deliver NIP's.





agtlaw

7,413 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Pub idiot plainly unaware of Whiteside v DPP [2011] EWHC 3471.

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Whilst we can all agree that the "found on street" scenario is nonsense what is valid is returning the letter saying that as a sovereign member of your own state and country you are not bound by the Laws of the land of the United Kingdom.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Durzel said:
Whilst we can all agree that the "found on street" scenario is nonsense what is valid is returning the letter saying that as a sovereign member of your own state and country you are not bound by the Laws of the land of the United Kingdom.
What a load of bks.

IANAL.

AW111

9,674 posts

163 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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Durzel said:
Whilst we can all agree that the "found on street" scenario is nonsense what is valid is returning the letter saying that as a sovereign member of your own state and country you are not bound by the Laws of the land of the United Kingdom.
I hear this also works for income tax and parking fines wink

ikarl

4,064 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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AW111 said:
Durzel said:
Whilst we can all agree that the "found on street" scenario is nonsense what is valid is returning the letter saying that as a sovereign member of your own state and country you are not bound by the Laws of the land of the United Kingdom.
I hear this also works for income tax and parking fines wink
works 60% of the time, every time

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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ikarl said:
works 60% of the time, every time
It's illegal in 9 countries.