Tudor Heritage Black Bay (Dark)
Tudor Heritage Black Bay (Dark)
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sidicks

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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I'm looking to treat myself to a new watch to wear on a day-to-day basis and, having not previous been a big fan of "Rolex-style" watches have been attracted to the 'Dark' version of the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

Is there anything I need to know about this watch compared to similarly priced alternatives? What else would people recommend?

beer
Sidicks

don logan

3,989 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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sidicks said:
I'm looking to treat myself to a new watch to wear on a day-to-day basis and, having not previous been a big fan of "Rolex-style" watches have been attracted to the 'Dark' version of the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

Is there anything I need to know about this watch compared to similarly priced alternatives? What else would people recommend?

beer
Sidicks
Just don`t expect it to stay "dark"

andy tims

5,606 posts

276 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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sidicks said:
Is there anything I need to know about this watch
As has already been suggested the coating may not last for ever especially on a day to day watch.

Also, from the images released so far, it has possibly the worst bracelet to watch head fit I've seen from a reputable watch producing company in years.

nikaiyo2

5,973 posts

225 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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andy tims said:
As has already been suggested the coating may not last for ever especially on a day to day watch.

Also, from the images released so far, it has possibly the worst bracelet to watch head fit I've seen from a reputable watch producing company in years.
Yeah it's weird how they have not used end links, is there a reason? Did the issued snowflakes have this or something?

I also do not get why they have used PVD coating, DLC is so much nicer or ceramic? Tudor have ceramic cases in the range so why use something that will look scabby in a year or two? I really don't get it.

OP have you seen the bronze Black Bay? I think that could look really cool in the flesh...

sidicks

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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nikaiyo2 said:
Yeah it's weird how they have not used end links, is there a reason? Did the issued snowflakes have this or something?

I also do not get why they have used PVD coating, DLC is so much nicer or ceramic? Tudor have ceramic cases in the range so why use something that will look scabby in a year or two? I really don't get it.

OP have you seen the bronze Black Bay? I think that could look really cool in the flesh...
Yes - don't like it at all!

What else should I be looking at around the same price range...?

taaffy

1,120 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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nikaiyo2 said:
Yeah it's weird how they have not used end links, is there a reason? Did the issued snowflakes have this or something?

I also do not get why they have used PVD coating, DLC is so much nicer or ceramic? Tudor have ceramic cases in the range so why use something that will look scabby in a year or two? I really don't get it.

OP have you seen the bronze Black Bay? I think that could look really cool in the flesh...
It looks like it has copied the bracelet of the Black Bay One ... the watch of which only one was made as a one off for an auction for charity. The Tudor Ranger also has this bracelet.


Edited by taaffy on Thursday 12th May 21:48

sidicks

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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taaffy said:
It looks like it has copied the bracelet of the Black Bay One ... the watch of which there is only one was made as a one off for an auction for charity. The Tudor Ranger also has this bracelet.
What am I missing with the bracelet? It seems the same as the other Heritage models (except it is black) and similar to the Rolex submariner?

I'm clearly missing what you are seeing as the issue!

taaffy

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269 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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It has no end links attaching the bracelet to the case.. it looks bare and unfinished.



sidicks

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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taaffy said:
It has no end links attaching the bracelet to the case.. it looks bare and unfinished.


Ok, I see what you mean - the bracelet on the normal Heritage models is nicer - maybe just get a black version of this?

If the 'Dark' version is limited edition might this hold value better?

sidicks

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Thursday 12th May 2016
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http://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/article/baselwo...

I think it was this picture that got me confused - I thought this was the 'dark' version as the bracelet looks almost black, but on reflection, and based on the comments above, I think it's just the standard, black dial Heritage model, with unusual lighting to make the steel strap appear much darker than it actually is.

nikaiyo2

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225 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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sidicks said:
Yes - don't like it at all!

What else should I be looking at around the same price range...?
Would you go 2nd hand?

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Ulysse%20Nardin/Maxi%...

The finishing on a UN is amazing IMHO on another level to Tudor.

Or maybe...

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Girard%20Perregaux/Se...


sidicks

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nikaiyo2 said:
Would you go 2nd hand?

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Ulysse%20Nardin/Maxi%...

The finishing on a UN is amazing IMHO on another level to Tudor.

Or maybe...

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Girard%20Perregaux/Se...
I'd certainly consider 2nd hand, but am not keen on either of the above!

I'm actually looking at the 2nd hand IWC Aquatimer on Dominic's site, but not sure I like this as much as the Black Bay, even though it's more expensive, albeit possibly better value and likely to retain value better?


Edited by sidicks on Friday 13th May 11:56

sidicks

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Friday 13th May 2016
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Any other suggestions?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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sidicks said:
Any other suggestions?
IWC Ingenieur?

don logan

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252 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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sidicks said:
Any other suggestions?
The relatively new Tudor Fastrider (black CERAMIC with white hands and markers)

Black Bay with black bezel? Pelagos? (These 2 are the Tudor high point for me)

Used Bremont MB2

Used Bremont Alt 1 ZT

Used Explorer 2

Used Speedmaster

sidicks

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Friday 13th May 2016
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desolate said:
IWC Ingenieur?
Thanks, but not over keen!

sidicks

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Friday 13th May 2016
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don logan said:
The relatively new Tudor Fastrider (black CERAMIC with white hands and markers)
I like the look of the Black Shield versions, but think they are substantially more expensive than the Heritage Black Bay.

don logan said:
Black Bay with black bezel? Pelagos? (These 2 are the Tudor high point for me)
Yes, Black Bay is definitely on the shortlist. Pelagos likely to be over budget!

don logan said:
Used Bremont MB2
Used Bremont Alt 1 ZT
Used Explorer 2
Used Speedmaster
Not bad, but probably over budget!
Not so keen on the Speedmaster.

Overall, so far one or other version of the Heritage Black Bay still sppeals most!

Edited by sidicks on Friday 13th May 12:50

Gogoplata

1,272 posts

190 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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sidicks said:
Ok, I see what you mean - the bracelet on the normal Heritage models is nicer - maybe just get a black version of this?

If the 'Dark' version is limited edition might this hold value better?
You can get after market end links for the original BB, off the top of my head I can't remember which company makes them. Perhaps they'll start making them for this model.

LaurasOtherHalf

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226 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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taaffy said:
It has no end links attaching the bracelet to the case.. it looks bare and unfinished.


I post d the following image on the baselworld thread, it looks way less flattering

LaurasOtherHalf said:
Any thoughts on the in house movement from Tudor going in the black bay? As mentioned elsewhere I do like the look of the brass version on the antique strap;


But much more fashionable I think is the black bay dark, something that I've quite fancied for a while. My only concern is the steel strap leaves a massive gap around the case-what's all that about?


Obviously it closes up with the optional leather strap but as nice as they look I just don't find leather straps too practical.
The bronze model I'll wait until I try on, it certainly looks interesting in the pictures but I have a sneaky suspicion I'll find it gopping in the flesh.

don logan

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252 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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The in house Tudor movement will be going into the Black Bay black bezel in August apparently, it will then have straight writing below the hands, the rose on the dial will be replaced bt the shiel logo and it will get something like a 70hr reserve