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Got caught for speeding tonight. Deserved it, shouldn't have been doing it. Was being a knob and was accelerating past someone who was doing like 17. Just pushed on a bit too hard.
48 in a 30 - Range was 300 metres. Took my license, did some checks, had me sign 3 bits of paper, the first with my name, the second with my speed and the third with my 'reply' which was 'no reply'.
He said something will come in the post within 28 days.
I asked him what he thought it would be and he said most probably points and a fine but wouldn't say how much. I've got a clean license, didn't give him any hassle and just accepted everything he said.
I know I shouldn't have been doing it but you know how that red mist works sometimes... Just wondering if anyone can offer some guidance on what my punishment will be? Any advice?
48 in a 30 - Range was 300 metres. Took my license, did some checks, had me sign 3 bits of paper, the first with my name, the second with my speed and the third with my 'reply' which was 'no reply'.
He said something will come in the post within 28 days.
I asked him what he thought it would be and he said most probably points and a fine but wouldn't say how much. I've got a clean license, didn't give him any hassle and just accepted everything he said.
I know I shouldn't have been doing it but you know how that red mist works sometimes... Just wondering if anyone can offer some guidance on what my punishment will be? Any advice?
Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 12th May 22:22
Just be lucky you didn't crash (speeding can be very dangerous apparently)
This would be a good starting point to get an idea of consequences:
http://www.mjpmotoring.co.uk/guidelines-speeding-o...
though if you've passed your test recently then you could be in for a bit more bother.
I'm sure there's plenty of theads on here about how to minimuse the consequences though.
hth
Ian
This would be a good starting point to get an idea of consequences:
http://www.mjpmotoring.co.uk/guidelines-speeding-o...
though if you've passed your test recently then you could be in for a bit more bother.
I'm sure there's plenty of theads on here about how to minimuse the consequences though.
hth
Ian
ashleyman said:
I know I shouldn't have been doing it but you know how that red mist works sometimes...
Sure do. I see it day in, day out. The 25 mph in a 40 mph zone types, 30 in 60 zones, less than 50 on motorways etc.The road safety plebs have hammered home the message for so long about speed and slapped up so many cameras, the roads are becoming full of nervous drivers, dawdling drivers, impatient drivers..
It all helps with the budget cuts, though.
48/30 is too fast for a speed awareness course.
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Edited by agtlaw on Friday 13th May 08:55
agtlaw said:
48/30 is too fast for a speed awareness course or a fixed penalty.
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
I thought the ACPO guidelines indicated a fixed penalty up to 50mph?There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th May 08:42
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th May 09:50
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th May 09:50
agtlaw said:
48/30 is too fast for a speed awareness course or a fixed penalty. The most likely outcome is a court hearing.
The relevant police force has 6 months from the day of the offence to institute proceedings; by Postal Requisition, Single Justice Procedure Notice or by summons.
You will very likely be able to deal with this case by post or online. Unless you would prefer a ban then it would usually be bad idea to attend in person. If you are not there then the court will not ban you at the first hearing.
48/30 is most likely 5 or 6 points.
The fine will be commensurate with your net weekly income.
Prosecution costs order is usually £85 at an early stage
Surcharge of at least £30. Maximum £100.
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Most forces I know offer a fixed penalty between 42 to 49mph in a 30. 50+ then its summons for court.The relevant police force has 6 months from the day of the offence to institute proceedings; by Postal Requisition, Single Justice Procedure Notice or by summons.
You will very likely be able to deal with this case by post or online. Unless you would prefer a ban then it would usually be bad idea to attend in person. If you are not there then the court will not ban you at the first hearing.
48/30 is most likely 5 or 6 points.
The fine will be commensurate with your net weekly income.
Prosecution costs order is usually £85 at an early stage
Surcharge of at least £30. Maximum £100.
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Edited by agtlaw on Friday 13th May 08:42
Digby said:
ashleyman said:
I know I shouldn't have been doing it but you know how that red mist works sometimes...
Sure do. I see it day in, day out. The 25 mph in a 40 mph zone types, 30 in 60 zones, less than 50 on motorways etc.The road safety plebs have hammered home the message for so long about speed and slapped up so many cameras, the roads are becoming full of nervous drivers, dawdling drivers, impatient drivers..
It all helps with the budget cuts, though.
Why don't you, instead of blaming others?
Digby said:
Sure do. I see it day in, day out. The 25 mph in a 40 mph zone types, 30 in 60 zones, less than 50 on motorways etc.
The road safety plebs have hammered home the message for so long about speed and slapped up so many cameras, the roads are becoming full of nervous drivers, dawdling drivers, impatient drivers..
It all helps with the budget cuts, though.
I agree it's quite annoying especially as I'm one of the ones who wants to drive at maximum speed limit 100% of the time. Usually I'm sensible about speed but last night I was just in a mood and wanted to get round the slow person.The road safety plebs have hammered home the message for so long about speed and slapped up so many cameras, the roads are becoming full of nervous drivers, dawdling drivers, impatient drivers..
It all helps with the budget cuts, though.
agtlaw said:
48/30 is too fast for a speed awareness course.
There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Thank you. So I'm looking at 3 points and £100 fine so long as they don't send me off to court...There's a fuller explanation here: http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/3/25/speeding-...
Edited by agtlaw on Friday 13th May 08:55
I'd bet this isn't the first time you have exceeded the speed limit by at least this much, just the first time you have been caught.
Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
If your car is the Golf R on your profile, you have a very fast-accelerating car, and a very capable car too.
Track days are your answer.
Take a day off work, take your R to Brands Hatch or Snetterton or Castle Combe or Donington or Bedford and really explore the performance of the car.
Burn off your need for speed in a place with no speed cameras or police, with a great crowd of speed enthusiasts, and then you will find you will feel less need to speed on the public road and may save your licence more embarrassment. And increased insurance premiums.
It's kept my licence clean, despite owning a 5 litre TVR.
Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
If your car is the Golf R on your profile, you have a very fast-accelerating car, and a very capable car too.
Track days are your answer.
Take a day off work, take your R to Brands Hatch or Snetterton or Castle Combe or Donington or Bedford and really explore the performance of the car.
Burn off your need for speed in a place with no speed cameras or police, with a great crowd of speed enthusiasts, and then you will find you will feel less need to speed on the public road and may save your licence more embarrassment. And increased insurance premiums.
It's kept my licence clean, despite owning a 5 litre TVR.
I got done at 49 in a 30. I was braking from a nsl into a rural village and got done bang to rights. This was 2009.
Outcome was 3 points and £60 (would be 100 now). Officer explained that had I been doing 10mph less I would have had the option of the speed awareness course. 1mph more and I would have faced 6 points.
This is the only time so far that I have been caught speeding and since then I rigidly stick to 30 and 40mph limits. Lesson learned.
Outcome was 3 points and £60 (would be 100 now). Officer explained that had I been doing 10mph less I would have had the option of the speed awareness course. 1mph more and I would have faced 6 points.
This is the only time so far that I have been caught speeding and since then I rigidly stick to 30 and 40mph limits. Lesson learned.
oyster said:
Digby said:
ashleyman said:
I know I shouldn't have been doing it but you know how that red mist works sometimes...
Sure do. I see it day in, day out. The 25 mph in a 40 mph zone types, 30 in 60 zones, less than 50 on motorways etc.The road safety plebs have hammered home the message for so long about speed and slapped up so many cameras, the roads are becoming full of nervous drivers, dawdling drivers, impatient drivers..
It all helps with the budget cuts, though.
Why don't you, instead of blaming others?
As for manning up, you were probably one of the types of people who scoffed when those like myself suggested HGV speeds needed to be increased due to impatient and frustrated drivers often taking risks to pass. Even the Government agreed with us in the end and speeds were raised. A slow vehicle is a slow vehicle and this leads to impatient and frustrated drivers and more and more overtakes. What can be done about this? Well, making people aware that being 10, 20 or 30 mph plus under a speed limit is probably doing fk all for road safety would be a start..
Bennet said:
What does this part mean? They speed gunned you from 300 metres away...?
Would you mind showing where you were on google maps or similar?
It was just what was on the piece of paper that was handed to me to sign. Speed 48, Range 300.02m. I guess 300.02m was where the reading was taken from.Would you mind showing where you were on google maps or similar?
This image shows roughly where he was standing (the end of the red line at the bottom), where 300.02m was (where he got me at the start of the line) and the square box at the top is where I was performing my red mist overtake. It was on a hill and they were right at the top of the hill pointing down so I didn't see them until it was too late...
This is it in Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/eC8fuvaQvL62
Edited by ashleyman on Friday 13th May 22:10
QBee said:
I'd bet this isn't the first time you have exceeded the speed limit by at least this much, just the first time you have been caught.
Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
My car is indeed the Golf R. It's the first time I have been caught.Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
I have been contemplating a track day just not so sure about taking my car onto a track. I'm not one that usually disobeys speed limits but last night the mist got me and I totally deserved it.
Thanks for your advice.
QBee said:
I'd bet this isn't the first time you have exceeded the speed limit by at least this much, just the first time you have been caught.
Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
If your car is the Golf R on your profile, you have a very fast-accelerating car, and a very capable car too.
Track days are your answer.
Take a day off work, take your R to Brands Hatch or Snetterton or Castle Combe or Donington or Bedford and really explore the performance of the car.
Burn off your need for speed in a place with no speed cameras or police, with a great crowd of speed enthusiasts, and then you will find you will feel less need to speed on the public road and may save your licence more embarrassment. And increased insurance premiums.
It's kept my licence clean, despite owning a 5 litre TVR.
Mr Pious is in attendance.Perhaps try this tactic to avoid more points.
If your car is the Golf R on your profile, you have a very fast-accelerating car, and a very capable car too.
Track days are your answer.
Take a day off work, take your R to Brands Hatch or Snetterton or Castle Combe or Donington or Bedford and really explore the performance of the car.
Burn off your need for speed in a place with no speed cameras or police, with a great crowd of speed enthusiasts, and then you will find you will feel less need to speed on the public road and may save your licence more embarrassment. And increased insurance premiums.
It's kept my licence clean, despite owning a 5 litre TVR.
Hardly, I got banned for 108 on the motorway back in the day, and at that time drove everywhere as fast as possible.
During my month in purdah, my wife showed me how I drove.......and I was shocked how I braked late and hard, regardless of my passenger's comfort.
Ok, I am getting older and the roads are busier, and I tend these days to drive my daily driver within the speed limits.
But my TVR is insanely quick (60 in 4 seconds) and I began driving it above the speed limit almost everywhere.
Then I started doing track days, and they satisfied most of my need for speed.
Just my observations...trying to help.
During my month in purdah, my wife showed me how I drove.......and I was shocked how I braked late and hard, regardless of my passenger's comfort.
Ok, I am getting older and the roads are busier, and I tend these days to drive my daily driver within the speed limits.
But my TVR is insanely quick (60 in 4 seconds) and I began driving it above the speed limit almost everywhere.
Then I started doing track days, and they satisfied most of my need for speed.
Just my observations...trying to help.
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