Petition - save the BBC recipe archive
Discussion
I don't normally go around sharing petitions, but as a frequent user of the BBC recipes, I thought I'd pop it in this sub forum 
https://www.change.org/p/bbc-save-the-bbc-s-recipe...
https://www.change.org/p/bbc-save-the-bbc-s-recipe...
I don't really understand why the BBC provides recipes or has a food magazine, so I support the decision to get rid. I do use their recipes though. However, for them to have that resource and just delete it from the internet, when it could be sold or passed on to someone else to host, seems a bit short-sighted.
I'd sign it if I thought that the recipe archive was was at risk but I think that that is a bit of a nonsense petition. No announcement has been made about dumping the recipe archive, someone is putting 2 ad 2 together to get 46.
When the BBC justifies it's existence/licence fee using just this kind of public service, it would make no sense to think about removing it and I don't see any evidence that they have done so.
If I'm wrong, I'll happily sign it but at the moment, it looks like someone is just trying to stir things(pun intended).
When the BBC justifies it's existence/licence fee using just this kind of public service, it would make no sense to think about removing it and I don't see any evidence that they have done so.
If I'm wrong, I'll happily sign it but at the moment, it looks like someone is just trying to stir things(pun intended).
hondafanatic said:
Apologies for my previous post, petition now signed.vanordinaire said:
hondafanatic said:
Apologies for my previous post, petition now signed.
t on the internet!It'll most likely end up on the BBC's commercial Good Food website. To delete it is pretty silly, I'm sure someone would pay a decent sum for the database and make the money back by hosting it on an advert funded website.
That said I've used it a number of times and have often found it useful if lacking inspiration so I've signed.
That said I've used it a number of times and have often found it useful if lacking inspiration so I've signed.
To be fair, it's not free, the BBC are spending £15m a year on having the resource there. (I assume rather than just hosting it they have an army of editors and hangers-on associated with it?) Money that comes from the public via the license fee.
Obviously if they didn't spend the money on this, they'd find another way to waste it, so it might as well be spent on this. but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
Obviously if they didn't spend the money on this, they'd find another way to waste it, so it might as well be spent on this. but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
paulrockliffe said:
but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
Its the recipes off their telly shows and it seems perfectly reasonable to me. The gubbermint don't want the BBC to be a 'go to' resource since it takes income away from their wealthy media backers. I'm not conflicted. I'm still paying the licence but now I get less.I'm conflicted!
C0ffin D0dger said:
It'll most likely end up on the BBC's commercial Good Food website...
Indeed. I think a lot of people think that is the site that is disappearing. (and probably will magically have the old content appear, if it is not already duplicated anyway)Pretty much all of the cost of hosting the recipes on bbc.co.uk is paying the royalties to the chefs/authors of the recipes.
It's a cunning move by the Beeb, I don't think there would have been anything else they could have cut that would have caused as much outrage, and can be re-instated very easily.
deadslow said:
paulrockliffe said:
but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
Its the recipes off their telly shows and it seems perfectly reasonable to me. The gubbermint don't want the BBC to be a 'go to' resource since it takes income away from their wealthy media backers. I'm not conflicted. I'm still paying the licence but now I get less.I'm conflicted!
The main argument to keep it is that it's already been done. But if the money is all going on royalties, ie the BBC don't own the content, then that falls down for me.
The only argument that holds weight is that it is useful and if they cut it, the BBC will still spend that money on something that likely won't be useful.
paulrockliffe said:
To be fair, it's not free, the BBC are spending £15m a year on having the resource there. (I assume rather than just hosting it they have an army of editors and hangers-on associated with it?) Money that comes from the public via the license fee.
Obviously if they didn't spend the money on this, they'd find another way to waste it, so it might as well be spent on this. but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
It's £15m for having lots of online resources ... Food is just one of them. iWonder, Newsbeat, NewsMagazineOnline, Travel and so on are part of the £15m.Obviously if they didn't spend the money on this, they'd find another way to waste it, so it might as well be spent on this. but it's not what the BBC should be doing.
I'm conflicted!
Anyway, the Internet Archive bunch have already taken a dump of all the pages so the content will exist forever, but it might not be as easily searchable as now. This is what the archive looks like now (most recent version at 11 May 2016) ... https://web.archive.org/web/20160511180613/http://... ... try a Search, it won't work. But clicking through on the links does, and will continue to do so.
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