Surrey cyclists.....you have my sympathy.
Surrey cyclists.....you have my sympathy.
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Deanno1dad

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604 posts

253 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Yesterday I decided to take the journey from Essex to sunny Surrey to tackle some road bike famous climbs.
I parked up in Cobham..planned a 70 ish mile route and off I rode into the distance.

All I can say is WOW..firstly stunning scenery and views...But Jesus Christ..some of those climbs are completely ball breaking.

I managed the famous Box Hill and Leith Hill which had 2 ways up also Whitedown Lane and Coldharbour Lane.

The Ultimate killer in my opinion was Barhatch Lane...this god awful hill has a finishing gradient of 21 %..I was on the brink of walking it was that bad.

Well done to anyone who has to tackle those bad boys every week..I survived ...only just

TheFungle

4,253 posts

235 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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You should try Yorkshire lad..

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Oh yeah that well known mountainous country called Surrey? Grow a pair and come to the South West, every road goes up or down...

Black can man

31,973 posts

197 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Barhatch & Whitedown are not nice at all, Box & Leith are just mere slopes.

Eddh

4,656 posts

221 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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pablo said:
Oh yeah that well known mountainous country called Surrey? Grow a pair and come to the South West, every road goes up or down...
Second that, get yourself over to South Wales biggrin

mcelliott

10,473 posts

210 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Cool, glad you enjoyed the hills. What was your total elevation for your 70 mile ride? Cos I always get confused when people post up on Strava and title it 'hilly ride' when there's less than 1,000m climbing in a 100km ride. smile

Deanno1dad

Original Poster:

604 posts

253 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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mcelliott said:
Cool, glad you enjoyed the hills. What was your total elevation for your 70 mile ride? Cos I always get confused when people post up on Strava and title it 'hilly ride' when there's less than 1,000m climbing in a 100km ride. smile
1600m elevation in 120km it's all part of a training plan as tackling the french alps in 4 weeks for a few of the Grand Tour climbs.

mcelliott

10,473 posts

210 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Deanno1dad said:
mcelliott said:
Cool, glad you enjoyed the hills. What was your total elevation for your 70 mile ride? Cos I always get confused when people post up on Strava and title it 'hilly ride' when there's less than 1,000m climbing in a 100km ride. smile
1600m elevation in 120km it's all part of a training plan as tackling the french alps in 4 weeks for a few of the Grand Tour climbs.
Good going. Which climbs are you thinking of doing?

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Op,

Hate to come across all cyclist, but if box and leith are massive to you, you're going to st bricks when you get to the Alps!

Joey Ramone

2,155 posts

154 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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At least with long alpine/Welsh climbs you can settle in and maintain momentum. The bloody West country has you going up and down like a tart's knickers with no time to get into a rhythm.

Deanno1dad

Original Poster:

604 posts

253 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Some Gump said:
Op,

Hate to come across all cyclist, but if box and leith are massive to you, you're going to st bricks when you get to the Alps!
I found Box hill & Leith easy.....only issue was Barhatch really all day

Deanno1dad

Original Poster:

604 posts

253 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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mcelliott said:
Good going. Which climbs are you thinking of doing?
Still being finalised as going in a group of 25 ish riders...so far Col Du Glandon..Col Du telegraphe..Col De la Madelaine and whatever else tickles our fancy...we have a meeting in a week to discuss etc

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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I was joking btw. It's all just bikes and stuff, glad you enjoyed the Surrey cols and got the heart rate up a bit! thumbup

wobert

5,571 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Deanno1dad said:
mcelliott said:
Good going. Which climbs are you thinking of doing?
Still being finalised as going in a group of 25 ish riders...so far Col Du Glandon..Col Du telegraphe..Col De la Madelaine and whatever else tickles our fancy...we have a meeting in a week to discuss etc
Im taking in the Col de Joux Plane this Saturday, feeling slightly apprehensive.... :-)

Amateurish

8,274 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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wobert said:
Im taking in the Col de Joux Plane this Saturday, feeling slightly apprehensive.... :-)
It's still closed on the Morzine side, beware.

wobert

5,571 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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Amateurish said:
It's still closed on the Morzine side, beware.
Yes we are aware of that.....sussing out if the closure is passable.

yellowjack

18,410 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Deanno1dad said:
Yesterday I decided to take the journey from Essex to sunny Surrey to tackle some road bike famous climbs.
I parked up in Cobham..planned a 70 ish mile route and off I rode into the distance.

All I can say is WOW..firstly stunning scenery and views...But Jesus Christ..some of those climbs are completely ball breaking.

I managed the famous Box Hill and Leith Hill which had 2 ways up also Whitedown Lane and Coldharbour Lane.

The Ultimate killer in my opinion was Barhatch Lane...this god awful hill has a finishing gradient of 21 %..I was on the brink of walking it was that bad.

Well done to anyone who has to tackle those bad boys every week..I survived ...only just
I can relate to this.

For 7 years I spent my weekdays near Saffron Walden, North Essex, in easy riding distance of Cambridgeshire and Suffolk. My weekends were spent in Farnborough, in easy riding distance of said Surrey Hills. The two years before that were a similar arrangement, just substitute Ripon, N. Yorkshire, for Essex. And I grew up in South Wales, near Swansea, so I know 'hilly' of old.

Now this isn't a boasting type of post (my pace is low on climbs generally, and nothing to boast about) but despite the title "Surrey Hills" it can be disappointing to get back from a ride round those parts and find you've not achieved as much climbing as you set out to do that morning. And that's even with bouncing from one climb to another. I signed up for the Giro Climbing Challenge on Strava and found myself nearly 50% short of the required elevation at the end of it, for example. I'd foolishly presumed that the Surrey Hills would provide more than adequate elevation to finish such a challenge. Obviously they would have, if'n I'd ridden them more... wink

My favourites are Staple Lane (amazing views of the London skyline on the horizon) and Crocknorth (that quaint stone bridge near the top). There's also the very cheeky Chapel Lane/Bagden Hill, out of Westhumble toward Great Bookham which is short and sharp but has a '20%' warning triangle at the bottom. Further afield is the climb from Tilford to Hindhead, followed by the drop down into the glorious countryside across toward Peaslake. Peaslake is a great centre for climbing because every which way out of the village seems to be a climb. Last time out I managed to tick off Pitch Hill too.

I've lived in Farnborough over 15 years now, but still I don't think I've managed Barhatch, nor half of the myriad ways there are to climb Leith Hill. It's great out that way, though. Fabulous scenery, most of the roads are at least half way decent, and the climbing is tough too. Yes, of course other regions make it look flat(ish), but it's as tough as things get locally and there is no shortage of cafes and shops for refreshment and the topping up of essentials (unlike the wilds of Essex and Cambridgeshire, where village shops are few and far between, and opening hours are far from dependable).

Glad you enjoyed it!

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Was totally expecting this to be about the cars biggrin (more so than anywhere else they seem intolerant.. but then I have a little sympathy as some roads are busy with both kinds of traffic and there are idiots on both sides of the coin)

IMHO the defining nature of the surrey hills is a lot of short but pretty sharp ramps (Box isn't much), they're painful in their own way and reward a different type of cycling.. very different to the alps.

Amateurish

8,274 posts

251 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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wobert said:
Yes we are aware of that.....sussing out if the closure is passable.
Check out this blog on the subject:

http://blog.alpine-property.com/2016/05/19/col-de-...

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Deanno1dad said:
Still being finalised as going in a group of 25 ish riders...so far Col Du Glandon..Col Du telegraphe..Col De la Madelaine and whatever else tickles our fancy...we have a meeting in a week to discuss etc
Don't underestimate the Glandon. It is a very long climb, even with the little downhill pair of hairpins in the middle.

The Galibier is one to tick off the list. Also a long bd of a climb.

The Surrey hills aren't long, but they are steep. In terms of gradient Box Hill is (IMO) the closest thing to an Alpine climb - that is if you were to make it 5 or 6 times as long. And steepen up the false flat after the hairpins...