Lease car return and servicing
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My leased F10 M5 is due to go back in 5 months, been a great car but time to move on.
The iDrive shows 6000 miles to the front pads and I know it will require disks at the same time (30500 miles so far). Obviously I'm in no mood to pay for pads and disks and hand the car back so someone can enjoy £2000 of my money so I'm really only using the car where necessary and using my wife's X3 (also a lovely little car BTW) and I doubt I'll add a further 3000 miles during the next few months.
The iDrive also shows an inspection and brake fluid change due in November which happens to be at the time of hand-over/end of contract.
My question is a simple one but actually not clear on the documents from BMW.
If I return the car early/mid-October when my new one arrives I know I'm due all payments up to the end of the agreement ( which will be 1month) and as long as the pads show a time to service requirement rather than overdue then I'm not due to have them serviced. What about the inspection and brake fluid which technically is due during my original lease period but remember the car will have gone back in October which is a month early for those two requirements according to the iDrive.
In the 6 month to end letter I received recently it states quite clearly that on an M car, any servicing that is due or overdue will be charged along with any loss of value to the vehicle due to the service not being carried out.
I know it appears black and white but BMW can't confirm either way where I stand!
Does anyone have any real experience of this situation?
The iDrive shows 6000 miles to the front pads and I know it will require disks at the same time (30500 miles so far). Obviously I'm in no mood to pay for pads and disks and hand the car back so someone can enjoy £2000 of my money so I'm really only using the car where necessary and using my wife's X3 (also a lovely little car BTW) and I doubt I'll add a further 3000 miles during the next few months.
The iDrive also shows an inspection and brake fluid change due in November which happens to be at the time of hand-over/end of contract.
My question is a simple one but actually not clear on the documents from BMW.
If I return the car early/mid-October when my new one arrives I know I'm due all payments up to the end of the agreement ( which will be 1month) and as long as the pads show a time to service requirement rather than overdue then I'm not due to have them serviced. What about the inspection and brake fluid which technically is due during my original lease period but remember the car will have gone back in October which is a month early for those two requirements according to the iDrive.
In the 6 month to end letter I received recently it states quite clearly that on an M car, any servicing that is due or overdue will be charged along with any loss of value to the vehicle due to the service not being carried out.
I know it appears black and white but BMW can't confirm either way where I stand!
Does anyone have any real experience of this situation?
Hi!
I believe it's the case that you are only liable for servicing requirements that fall due when you are in possession of the car.
You are fully within your rights to return the car early, with the contract requiring you to make the remaining payment on the lease.
I take it you didn't get the service pack?
I believe it's the case that you are only liable for servicing requirements that fall due when you are in possession of the car.
You are fully within your rights to return the car early, with the contract requiring you to make the remaining payment on the lease.
I take it you didn't get the service pack?
Jazzer said:
Hi!
I believe it's the case that you are only liable for servicing requirements that fall due when you are in possession of the car.
You are fully within your rights to return the car early, with the contract requiring you to make the remaining payment on the lease.
I take it you didn't get the service pack?
No service pack, it's a huge amount of money and only worth while if you have the car for 4 or more years.I believe it's the case that you are only liable for servicing requirements that fall due when you are in possession of the car.
You are fully within your rights to return the car early, with the contract requiring you to make the remaining payment on the lease.
I take it you didn't get the service pack?
I agree with your thoughts......if only BMW would confirm either way!
I have been smitten by a Cayman GTS and am currently contemplating taking the plunge.
I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
Jazzer said:
I have been smitten by a Cayman GTS and am currently contemplating taking the plunge.
I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
I've been fortunate and had two 911's and a Boxster S, all great cars.I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
Don't worry about the hairdresser image, they drive a lot better than anything but a cooking 911
Could do with more grunt perhaps but a great car that's for sure.
Oh, and the PDK gearbox
Edited by HoHoHo on Wednesday 8th June 21:58
HoHoHo said:
Jazzer said:
I have been smitten by a Cayman GTS and am currently contemplating taking the plunge.
I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
I've been fortunate and had two 911's and a Boxster S, all great cars.I had previously dismissed the Cayman as a hairdresser's car, a Boxter with a roof, and I really regret that.
It's stunning to drive and, according to those in the know, right up there with the 911 GT3 as the best driver's car Porsche produce.
My only dilemma is that I'd want it as an everyday car and there is a part of me that would be slightly embarrassed by that.
We'll see!!
Don't worry about the hairdresser image, they drive a lot better than anything but a cooking 911
Could do with more grunt perhaps but a great car that's for sure.
Oh, and the PDK gearbox
Edited by HoHoHo on Wednesday 8th June 21:58
Exhaust note was great though lol.
just spoken to BMW and my options are simple:
Hand the car back and pay any outstanding monthly payments due + if I'm over mileage any excess based on the amount over divided by the term so far and then multiplied by the full term so they can calculate the necessary charge.
I am not liable for any servicing due once the car is handed back regardless of the fact for example the brake fluid falls within the original term.
With regard to the Boxster comments, I had an S from new in 2002 and always felt that I was able to wring the thing within my capabilities and never got scared. Not a feeling I ever had with my 996 or 997!
The S could do with more power but was a lovely balanced drive
Hand the car back and pay any outstanding monthly payments due + if I'm over mileage any excess based on the amount over divided by the term so far and then multiplied by the full term so they can calculate the necessary charge.
I am not liable for any servicing due once the car is handed back regardless of the fact for example the brake fluid falls within the original term.
With regard to the Boxster comments, I had an S from new in 2002 and always felt that I was able to wring the thing within my capabilities and never got scared. Not a feeling I ever had with my 996 or 997!
The S could do with more power but was a lovely balanced drive
Jazzer said:
Mine paid for itself with the running in service and a couple of visits......mind you, I might have been shafted by the stealers!
Even over 3 yrs an M5/6 (on 8k pa lease) should only need 2 visits, running-in then oil / brake fluid at 18m to 2y years.That's it.
If mines need brakes I'll do it myself and get the counters reset, no one will know or care.
HoHoHo said:
...it states quite clearly that on an M car, any servicing that is due or overdue will be charged along with any loss of value to the vehicle due to the service not being carried out.
There you go. "Due or overdue".If it still has miles / days to go on the service item at date of return (even 1 mile or 1 day) then it's not due.
"Overdue" means outside the permitted lateness of servicing ie. 1 month after it fell "due"!
Another make, but I returned my E63 AMG to MB a few weeks early last December to avoid falling due for the 2nd annual service. (which was going to cost more than the months lease). No probs.
Edited by mikeN54 on Thursday 9th June 13:15
mikeN54 said:
HoHoHo said:
...it states quite clearly that on an M car, any servicing that is due or overdue will be charged along with any loss of value to the vehicle due to the service not being carried out.
There you go. "Due or overdue".If it still has miles / days to go on the service item at date of return (even 1 mile or 1 day) then it's not due.
"Overdue" means outside the permitted lateness of servicing ie. 1 month after it fell "due"!
It appears not.
mikeN54 said:
Another make, but I returned my E63 AMG to MB a few weeks early last December to avoid falling due for the 2nd annual service. (which was going to cost more than the months lease). No probs.
That's also my position.If I keep the car until end of term I'll have around £2500 of servicing costs + the monthly payments.
Time to say goodbye I think.
BMW have confirmed all being well my next car is currently due with them week 37 (12/9/16) so I'll hand it back late September
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