996 Turbo Remapped - Ecotune Glasgow - Hats Off
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I would like to thank the team at Ecotune in Glasgow for excellent service and end result from
mapping a 6T. In Scotland very few tuners can be trusted to map this kind of car and I have to say
that I was rather impressed both with the attitude and the actual end map. The car is up in power
considerably now showing a full bar of boost (1.0) up from stock 0.6 with 0.7 spike, the mid range is
great and the low down take up is better. Thank you to Stan and his team and anyone unsure about
where to go in Scotland now have an option.
On the road home we had a chance to compare it to my own 9E tuned car, and we even got into a tussle
with a Black Nissan GTR heading down the Loch Lomond rd, 60 - 120 and it was pulling away all of the time,
granted I reckon the GTR will be quicker out the blocks, but how many times do you need that advantage?
My 9E car will show a clean bar every time and in colder weather 1.1 1.2, today it showed an on demand 1.1
as the weather has cooled to about 12 C, in higher temps I have noted it will only offer 1.0 bar.
mapping a 6T. In Scotland very few tuners can be trusted to map this kind of car and I have to say
that I was rather impressed both with the attitude and the actual end map. The car is up in power
considerably now showing a full bar of boost (1.0) up from stock 0.6 with 0.7 spike, the mid range is
great and the low down take up is better. Thank you to Stan and his team and anyone unsure about
where to go in Scotland now have an option.
On the road home we had a chance to compare it to my own 9E tuned car, and we even got into a tussle
with a Black Nissan GTR heading down the Loch Lomond rd, 60 - 120 and it was pulling away all of the time,
granted I reckon the GTR will be quicker out the blocks, but how many times do you need that advantage?
My 9E car will show a clean bar every time and in colder weather 1.1 1.2, today it showed an on demand 1.1
as the weather has cooled to about 12 C, in higher temps I have noted it will only offer 1.0 bar.
Ecotune have a very good rep.
Also Ken from 9e and Paul from wortec - with wortec tuning confirmed as OK Upto 174mph with an AFR of around 11.7 for me.
When the f30 forum went for a shoot out at SRR, Ecotune was the best f30 335 at around 389bhp and 550ftlb with a very smooth curve - all for £500
Blue (WJ1) is the Ecotune stage 1 remap
Giving the following performance - not bad for a weasely diesel:
Also Ken from 9e and Paul from wortec - with wortec tuning confirmed as OK Upto 174mph with an AFR of around 11.7 for me.
When the f30 forum went for a shoot out at SRR, Ecotune was the best f30 335 at around 389bhp and 550ftlb with a very smooth curve - all for £500
Blue (WJ1) is the Ecotune stage 1 remap
Giving the following performance - not bad for a weasely diesel:
The Red Devil said:
ds666 said:
Hope the 996 turbo has had an uprated clutch ....
No it has not, and it wont need one for some time yet. And don't give up your day job. Comedian.
Has your Turbo got an uprated clutch?
Edited by The Red Devil on Monday 13th June 17:53
Ho Hum , but what do they know , eh ?
And my car doesn't need an uprated clutch as it is standard .
The Red Devil said:
They managed 420 bhp out of one on the rolling road I am advised. No matter how you slice it though
its still an oil burner. I wonder how long the car will run at that for though, all that pressure
may add up over time.
The 420 will be sans dpf so technically an mot failure. The gearbox/clutch are likely to give up first. That ZF8 is only really rated to 700nm.its still an oil burner. I wonder how long the car will run at that for though, all that pressure
may add up over time.
The main problem with diesels is the narrow torque band which the ZF8 and DCT hides very well, followed by the sound - the ASD through the stereo sorts that. So it's like an oil burning GTR - very PS3 in handling, sound and looney performance.
Very good at track days though - for towing the track car to the circuit
ds666 said:
To quote 9 excellence "Today we will not tune a car without an upgraded clutch. Our stage 1/2 tuning packages will not work with a stock clutch - it will simply slip immediately even if a new stock clutch has been installed"
Ho Hum , but what do they know , eh ?
And my car doesn't need an uprated clutch as it is standard .
Look, do you not think I know that, I have known that for years as opposed you to you just stumblingHo Hum , but what do they know , eh ?
And my car doesn't need an uprated clutch as it is standard .
across it, you have limited knowledge which is all theory and not practice.
Depending on the power running the clutch will hold for a good time.
Whats that saying about a small amount of knowledge being a dangerous thing.
And just keep your car standard, standard car for a standard mind.
ds666 said:
To quote 9 excellence "Today we will not tune a car without an upgraded clutch. Our stage 1/2 tuning packages will not work with a stock clutch - it will simply slip immediately even if a new stock clutch has been installed"
Ho Hum , but what do they know , eh ?
If he's running the same power as the 9E stage 1 package and his clutch isn't slipping then, to answer your question, they don't know it all. Proof of the pudding.....Ho Hum , but what do they know , eh ?
The Red Devil said:
Look, do you not think I know that, I have known that for years as opposed you to you just stumbling
across it, you have limited knowledge which is all theory and not practice.
Depending on the power running the clutch will hold for a good time.
Whats that saying about a small amount of knowledge being a dangerous thing.
And just keep your car standard, standard car for a standard mind.
Yes, since you didn't do your research and purchased a mapped car, and suprise suprise the stock (original) clutch died. And even now years later you are still slating the previous owner on an open forum and threatening court action. I'd probably try 'stumbling' onto a bit more knowledge before buying your next caracross it, you have limited knowledge which is all theory and not practice.
Depending on the power running the clutch will hold for a good time.
Whats that saying about a small amount of knowledge being a dangerous thing.
And just keep your car standard, standard car for a standard mind.
foxsasha said:
If he's running the same power as the 9E stage 1 package and his clutch isn't slipping then, to answer your question, they don't know it all. Proof of the pudding.....
The silly red 'clutch' devil knows all too well this isn't true. Probably best to listen to 9e, an established tuner, rather than some nobodyIf 9E recommend a clutch change for a ( proper) remap then that's good enough for me . If the dirt devil is selling the car he's just remapped then I imagine he will warrant the clutch ...
He's not been quite as sharp today - his first rant was very poorly written for someone with a private education -too many commas - perhaps it was an "Approved School " ?
He's not been quite as sharp today - his first rant was very poorly written for someone with a private education -too many commas - perhaps it was an "Approved School " ?
ds666 said:
If 9E recommend a clutch change for a ( proper) remap then that's good enough for me . If the dirt devil is selling the car he's just remapped then I imagine he will warrant the clutch ...
He's not been quite as sharp today - his first rant was very poorly written for someone with a private education -too many commas - perhaps it was an "Approved School " ?
The car is not quite running the same map as 9E, and as Ken at 9E stated the previous ownersHe's not been quite as sharp today - his first rant was very poorly written for someone with a private education -too many commas - perhaps it was an "Approved School " ?
got some 30, 000 miles on his clutch after they mapped it, fact.
9E map is better and stronger. You are back to your theory again,
perhaps you should listen to those with hard experience, those who have owned scores of these cars
in the real world and not forum chat, those that have put good money into investing in the cars
and the problems associated, or shall we listen to you with your non tuned car stating theory as fact.
And this thread was not for a slagging match, it was an attempt to introduce a tuner in Scotland
who I got great service from and to give a heads up to others who were at a loss for this kind
of option in Scotland. What my education has to with it I don't know? Do I sense some envy in you,
That will get you nowhere.....
Maybe keep the posts relevant to the thread, just a thought
shantybeater said:
Yes, since you didn't do your research and purchased a mapped car, and suprise suprise the stock (original) clutch died. And even now years later you are still slating the previous owner on an open forum and threatening court action. I'd probably try 'stumbling' onto a bit more knowledge before buying your next car
I did plenty of research both into the car I was buying and the tuning it got, that's why I spoke toboth the owner about the clutch and 9E, cant you read dummy. I have more knowledge in my little pinky
about cars than you do in your whole body or are ever likely to have.
Now away back to the naughty step again for 24 hrs this time until you have something constructive to say
foxsasha said:
If he's running the same power as the 9E stage 1 package and his clutch isn't slipping then, to answer your question, they don't know it all. Proof of the pudding.....
Its not quite the same power Fox, circa 460 which is just about the tipping point and I am also not saying that the clutch willlast forever, it will wear out quicker for sure, however its fine just now, and if/when the car sells the new owner will
be advised what we have done and if required a £1500 will be spent on a Sachs, the profit will be in the car to handle it.
Thanks for taking the same stance as me though, in that too many theorists out there with zero actual life experience.
And
9E don't really quote bhp figures, its 60 -130 stats and so on, as bhp means very little
The Red Devil said:
Its not quite the same power Fox, circa 460 which is just about the tipping point
Maybe I misunderstand what you are trying to say, but 460 is not the tipping point for a 996tt clutch at all. Thats stock X50 power and my stock clutch lasted just fine for 30k miles. Torque dictates clutch wear not power.
ZeroH said:
Maybe I misunderstand what you are trying to say, but 460 is not the tipping point for a 996tt clutch at all. Thats stock X50 power and my stock clutch lasted just fine for 30k miles.
Torque dictates clutch wear not power.
Yes, good point. Try telling all the expert's on here that though, armchair opinion with noTorque dictates clutch wear not power.
experience, its like talking to my teenage daughter half the time. Wannabes
ZeroH said:
Maybe I misunderstand what you are trying to say, but 460 is not the tipping point for a 996tt clutch at all. Thats stock X50 power and my stock clutch lasted just fine for 30k miles.
Torque dictates clutch wear not power.
Just another point, my own 9E tuned car lasted 30k as well on the original clutch, and it was running more power than an X50,Torque dictates clutch wear not power.
circa 490 - 500, dependent of course on how many times its given WOT, the harder its driven the more wear. I think that 9E
advise the stronger clutch as its then an affirmative job, and the Sachs clutch is an do it once a forget about it upgrade,
it will handle up to 890nm of consistent torque, which is a fair old amount and is highly recommended with zero downside, light
pedal as standard, a bit quicker uptake which you soon become accustomed to. £1500 though which is sore.
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