No Reds display at Farnborough - The beginning of the end?
No Reds display at Farnborough - The beginning of the end?
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Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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http://aerosociety.com/News/Insight-Blog/4451/Farn...

I've tweeted Farnborough for confirmation, but according to the above, there will be no flying display by the Reds this year.
It's very much looking like Air Shows days are numbered frown

hantsxlg

928 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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what a total farce... and I wonder how well they will get on trying to keep people out of the heathland to the west of the runways. Might have to go down on my mountain bike and see...

MarkwG

5,920 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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I doubt it'll make any difference at all: Farnborough is primarily a trade show, not entertainment, the slot the Arrows had will be filled with something else. The Arrows air time can then be used to entertain elsewhere.

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,349 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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MarkwG said:
I doubt it'll make any difference at all: Farnborough is primarily a trade show, not entertainment, the slot the Arrows had will be filled with something else. The Arrows air time can then be used to entertain elsewhere.
Maybe during the week, yes, but the weekend, it's always been billed as one of the top attractions. I imagine that the management team for FIA are desperately trying to find something with a "wow factor" to announce.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Trevatanus said:
I imagine that the management team for FIA are desperately trying to find something with a "wow factor" to announce.
A bouncy castle perhaps? Or a stall selling organic chutney, that would be nice.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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We shall see.

At the last Farnborough they suffered two bird strikes.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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They're displaying at FoS (on Thursday and Friday), which appears to be far less practical in terms of displaying away from roads/car parks/people etc.

Trevatanus

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11,349 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
We shall see.

At the last Farnborough they suffered two bird strikes.
I was working there at the time, I was talking to one of the airfield managers who was mightily p1ssed off because the strikes happened outside the perimeter, and were not strictly Farnborough's fault (his words not mine)

oyster

13,698 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Trevatanus said:
I imagine that the management team for FIA are desperately trying to find something with a "wow factor" to announce.
A bouncy castle perhaps? Or a stall selling organic chutney, that would be nice.
Still dangerous though.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/healt...


kurt535

3,560 posts

146 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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lets face it, you want an airshow? America the way forward...i've given planning flying into/attending any one this year due to the uncertainty caused by the dear old caa

ApOrbital

10,585 posts

147 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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They are not going to whitby something to do with a 29 point saftey REG,even though they fly out at sea not over land and yet sunderland free airshow is ok. frown

yellowjack

18,405 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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It's the headline on the front of the 'News & Mail' currently in local newsagents. I haven't read their piece in detail, but part of the speculation is that it has something in part to do with this last week's spate of military air display teams' crashes around the world.

As for what someone mentioned about nipping up to the heathland between the Basingstoke Canal and Caesar's Camp? I regularly ride my MTB up there, and cannot begin to imagine the cost in manpower and money, and the logistics of denying access to that area to random members of the public. It's huge. The perimeter is more porous than a porous thing, and it's covered in copses of trees and 'dead spots' of low ground where illicit spectators could easily lurk well away from observers watching over the area from official cordons.

Closing that area is stupid anyway. The Red Arrows for example, when displaying at Farnborough, often come out of, or reform into formations over, and pointing directly AT local houses. When they're out toward Bourley Road they tend to be flying 'flat' (lower risk) turns anyway. If they don't display at Farnborough I can't say that I'll miss them. It's a long time since I was particularly enthralled or excited by anything that "Smoke on. Go!" and his chums have done. Some of their display formations have been almost yawn-inducing for quite a few years now...

getmecoat

Trevatanus

Original Poster:

11,349 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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yellowjack said:
It's the headline on the front of the 'News & Mail' currently in local newsagents. I haven't read their piece in detail, but part of the speculation is that it has something in part to do with this last week's spate of military air display teams' crashes around the world.
They tweeted at 9:43 this morning that there would be an announcement later today on this subject.
I guess they are on bended knees to the CAA trying to get some sort of dispensation?

hantsxlg

928 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th June 2016
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it is offical.. Red at Farnborough will be fly past only. BUT ooh wooww they will be 'interacting with the crowd' on the ground. Great...

All pathetic knee jerk reaction in a totally risk adverse society.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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yellowjack said:
It's the headline on the front of the 'News & Mail' currently in local newsagents. I haven't read their piece in detail, but part of the speculation is that it has something in part to do with this last week's spate of military air display teams' crashes around the world.

As for what someone mentioned about nipping up to the heathland between the Basingstoke Canal and Caesar's Camp? I regularly ride my MTB up there, and cannot begin to imagine the cost in manpower and money, and the logistics of denying access to that area to random members of the public. It's huge. The perimeter is more porous than a porous thing, and it's covered in copses of trees and 'dead spots' of low ground where illicit spectators could easily lurk well away from observers watching over the area from official cordons.

Closing that area is stupid anyway. The Red Arrows for example, when displaying at Farnborough, often come out of, or reform into formations over, and pointing directly AT local houses. When they're out toward Bourley Road they tend to be flying 'flat' (lower risk) turns anyway. If they don't display at Farnborough I can't say that I'll miss them. It's a long time since I was particularly enthralled or excited by anything that "Smoke on. Go!" and his chums have done. Some of their display formations have been almost yawn-inducing for quite a few years now...

getmecoat
Completely agree!!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Future Farnborough Air Shows may well look more like this -

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/...

The Mad Monk

11,425 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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ApOrbital said:
They are not going to whitby something to do with a 29 point saftey REG,even though they fly out at sea not over land and yet sunderland free airshow is ok. frown
Agree absolutely.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Petition signed - and an e-mail sent to our local MP - Sir Gerald Howarth.

Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Future Farnborough Air Shows may well look more like this -

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/...
I would love that.