Non starter
Non starter
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mickh32

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118 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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This car is now one step closer to going on ebay. I put it in the garage last week and everything was fine. Put the battery conditioner and closed the door. Went to start it tonight, the pump whirred, turned the key and that little red light that looks like a snow flake flashed red which normally means "i am not going to start" and it didn't. Nothing. Have tried several times with alarming it on and off, disconnected the battery, jump leads from another battery all with the same result. Will contact the local TVR garage if it won't start and get them to fix it and then look round the forecourt.

bobfather

11,197 posts

284 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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How old is the battery? Putting a knackered battery on conditioner won't help. Just because it started last time doesn't mean the battery is okay, that last start crank may have been the death nail

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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How long have you had the car,
Have you had problems before,
How often do you use the car,
Any other issues or tell take signs,
Does it normally start when hot ok?
Difficult to diagnose without some more info. wink

QBee

22,460 posts

173 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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"That little red light that looks like a snow flake" is telling you that it's close to freezing outside.

There's more to your problem than meets the eye.

ClassiChimi

12,424 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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But is that red light (outside temp sensor ) connected to anything but itself?

A red herring Maybe ? I'm pretty sure that can be disconnected and it shouldn't make any difference, but i'm happy to be corrected.


mickh32

Original Poster:

118 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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Ive had the car for 2 years and put a new good quality battery on last year. Its had the occasional hot start problem about 3 times. 9 times out of 10 it has started first time when stood up for a week or 2. I drove it last weekend and it was fine.The red light flashes green as soon as it comes on and then flashes red. I did connect another battery to it but still no engine turn over.

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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mickh32 said:
.......... I did connect another battery to it but still no engine turn over.
So when you first said it would not start did you actually mean it would not turn over?

If so then that narrows things a little.

Steve

ukdj

1,004 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th June 2016
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The snowflake cycling colour is standard self test at startup and is normal assuming red light goes out.

The car should start regardless of the ice detector status.

Do you get a click from the starter when attempting to start or is it just silence ?

The starter could be stuck, try putting car in 3rd gear and rocking it nback and forth a few times which may free it off, take it out of 3rd and attempt start again.

Next step check wire to solenoid is connected and getting 12v when attempting to start, also check earths are ok too.

Look for chimpongas' lengthy & comprehemsive posts on hot start issues, its all covered in there.

N7GTX

8,302 posts

172 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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If you don't have a meter to test the small wire for 12 volts at the starter solenoid, then ignition on, borrow some neighbours and bump start it. If it starts then the fault is in the starter circuit/earth circuit.
Quick way to test the earth circuit is to use a jump lead and connect it to the battery earth terminal and the other end to a solid metal part of the engine such as the alternator bracket or a lifting eye.

mickh32

Original Poster:

118 posts

144 months

Saturday 18th June 2016
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Over the last couple of days every time I've gone into the garage I have tried to start the car, needless to say nothing had changed. Today I tried again hoping a miracle had happened and the car made an attempt to start,only a little try but an attempt. I then tried it again and the battery went dead, probably because of the many attempts over the last couple of days. I jumped it with a spare battery and it started. I took the opportunity to go for a blast while it was working and to charge the battery. I came home and parked it up had a cuppa and went back out to start it and it was dead. The battery was charged so I put a meter on the ignition wire on the starter and there was no power. Would this confirm the immobiliser is the culprit.

jesfirth

1,743 posts

271 months

Saturday 18th June 2016
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Mick. It may be a red herring but if the spade connection on the starter is loose the solenoid will not engage and it won't start. This was my problem last week. Mine was also intermittent both hot and cold. Jack it up waggle the spade connector and see. Worth a try and an easy and very cheap fix if that is the culprit.

mickh32

Original Poster:

118 posts

144 months

Sunday 19th June 2016
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Last night I disconnected the negative terminal off the battery. This morning I reconnected it and its started every time I've tried it. Good thing is I can now take it to my friendly auto leccy and have him bypass the immobiliser and check out the starter motor and wiring.