Redundancy protection
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Patrick Bateman

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13,148 posts

203 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I'm in the oil industry and have survived two waves of redundancies so far but I wouldn't be surprised if my company have another one before the end of the year. A few folk at work have been looking into this more and I'm unsure if I should too.

I'm 27, have a mortgage at £500 a month but no dependants and healthy savings. Should the worst happen I'd still be getting my final month's wage plus 5 weeks pay as a redundancy package.

Given the figures my workmates are finding are around £40-£50 a month to receive around £1200-£1400 I'm leaning towards not bothering given the above but can anyone who's been in a similar situation offer any advice?

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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"If there is a ‘foreseeability of redundancy’ – for example, you have been told that your job is under consultation – it is likely that your cover will be invalid and you won’t be able to claim. Be careful as this may also be the case if you know that some jobs in your company may be lost or even in circumstances where your place of work is known to be in financial trouble."


http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mortgages/payment...

Patrick Bateman

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13,148 posts

203 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I know all about that sort of stuff, it's just an educated guess that it's always a possibility given the nature of the oil industry just now.

Ynox

1,754 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th June 2016
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There was a thread by another Oil and Gas guy on here asking similar - worth searching.

I'd not bother. I think most of the policies are a load of bks with a lot of holes in my limited research. But this is my personal opinion.

I'd save the 50 quid or so a month rather than spending it on something which would possibly (probably not) pay out!


DanL

6,586 posts

294 months

Saturday 18th June 2016
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Depends how long you think it might take you to find a job, and if you worry about redundancy or not. I've had cover in place since getting a mortgage - I'm sure I could have saved money by not having it, but I like not worrying if I hear rumours of lay offs at work.

If it takes me 12 months to find a job, things have gone so wrong that I'll have other stuff to worry about! I do like not needing to care if the axe falls on me or not though. That is worth the cost of the premium to me - it may not be to you though...

Sir Bagalot

7,075 posts

210 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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One of the sign up questions they will ask is if there have been any recent redundancies. When I mean recent they mean within the last 12 months.

Even when you do claim they require your left testicle before paying out. I should know as I made such a claim in recent years. They made it extremely difficult to successfully claim, and I really do mean extremely difficult. Then they try and catch you out.

s.

I have heard that they won't touch the Oil industry at the moment, but this is hearsay.


creampuff

6,511 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
Should the worst happen I'd still be getting my final month's wage plus 5 weeks pay as a redundancy package.
No, shoukd the worst happen, the company would fold leaving you with an unpaid last month of work, no money for redundancy and no payout of your leave entitlements.

CrouchingWayne

749 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Hi - I'm also in the oil industry, you never know where the axe will fall next.

One thing to note that you may already know, is that redundancy payments up to £30k are tax free. Obviously caveats etc abound.

davek_964

11,216 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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creampuff said:
Patrick Bateman said:
Should the worst happen I'd still be getting my final month's wage plus 5 weeks pay as a redundancy package.
No, shoukd the worst happen, the company would fold leaving you with an unpaid last month of work, no money for redundancy and no payout of your leave entitlements.
Even if it's not that bad, there is an in between possibility. It depends what you earn, but the statutory redundancy pay is not great so it could be 5 weeks of that - not your normal pay. Previous redundancies are not a guarantee of future redundancy payouts (ask me how I know....).

Having said all that, in your situation I wouldn't bother. It sounds like you have enough money for a rainy day to cover yourself - and it will be a damn site easier to get your hands on that than any insurance payout anyway.

maniac886

1,310 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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I was looking at accident,sickness and unemployment insurance at the middle of last year. There were a lot of get out clauses when I read through the policy documents so make sure you read the policy a few times over . I would have signed up but just completely forgot. At the end of last year I was diagnosed with cancer(thankfully in remission now) and have just recently found out a number or roles at work including mine are being made redundant. Fortunately the redundancy payout isn't too bad and I have been with the company for a while but had I signed up with the cover I would have had a little extra funds as a cushion.

AbzST64

581 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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There is such a thing..!

One of my friends worked for JP Kenny i think it was and got made redundant around Christmas, he had some sort of mortgage cover if this happened. The short of it is they pay his mortgage for up to a year maximum i believe or until he finds employment! I don't know who it's with or any of the finer details, he had also just purchased the house a couple months before redundancy too.

Patrick Bateman

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13,148 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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creampuff said:
No, shoukd the worst happen, the company would fold leaving you with an unpaid last month of work, no money for redundancy and no payout of your leave entitlements.
Well true, but it's highly, highly unlikely.