Any Snus enthusiasts on PH?
Any Snus enthusiasts on PH?
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Ruskie

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4,529 posts

230 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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When I have had a few drinks I love a bit of Snus. Currently on Siberia but it needs some caution as it's very strong. I'm s non smoker so probably hightens the effect but with moderation it's good.

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Banned in a lot of countries due to the mouth cancer it causes.

Verdict is still out on whether it's as dangerous as smoking; which in itself usually kills off one in three users.

You are basically pressing a bag of chemicals, including carcinogens, against the delicate lining of your mouth in order to get a tiny 'high'.

Also indicated for pancreatic cancer -which is very hard to treat - and other gastric cancers.

Gum disease and high blood pressure but not lung cancer or COPD - as you don't smoke it.

Enjoy!

Ruskie

Original Poster:

4,529 posts

230 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
Banned in a lot of countries due to the mouth cancer it causes.

Verdict is still out on whether it's as dangerous as smoking; which in itself usually kills off one in three users.

You are basically pressing a bag of chemicals, including carcinogens, against the delicate lining of your mouth in order to get a tiny 'high'.

Also indicated for pancreatic cancer -which is very hard to treat - and other gastric cancers.

Gum disease and high blood pressure but not lung cancer or COPD - as you don't smoke it.

Enjoy!
Have you links to the things you have mentioned?

soad

34,721 posts

206 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Does it make your head spin?

Whatever floats your boat.

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Ruskie said:
Have you links to the things you have mentioned?
Hi, just have a Google.

I remember from a couple of years back there was quite a good study done in one of the Scandinavian countries - can't remember if it had a group of 10 or 20 thousand?

Also there was some FDA advice a couple of years back - the manufacturers were trying to get the warning labels reduced. It was on FDA bulletins I used to recieve.

Certainly banned in most of Europe and I think Russia as well.

Anecdotally, I know one friend (from Sweden) , used it for quite a few years and developed these awful mouth ulcers that took a long time to clear up. Stuff had basically burnt holes in his gums....looked bloody terrible...yuck!

Baryonyx

18,292 posts

189 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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You won't find that many Snus users on PH because the sale of it in the EU is banned outside of Sweden. You can import it if you know where to look but I don't suppose many do.

NRS

26,466 posts

231 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Baryonyx said:
You won't find that many Snus users on PH because the sale of it in the EU is banned outside of Sweden. You can import it if you know where to look but I don't suppose many do.
It's for sale (and popular) in Norway too.

JMGS4

8,932 posts

300 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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NRS said:
Baryonyx said:
You won't find that many Snus users on PH because the sale of it in the EU is banned outside of Sweden. You can import it if you know where to look but I don't suppose many do.
It's for sale (and popular) in Norway too.
And Switzerland!

Ruskie

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4,529 posts

230 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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soad said:
Does it make your head spin?

Whatever floats your boat.
Yeah just light and mellow. I like it when I have a few drinks. Ordered 10 tins and got a couple free.

Goaty Bill 2

3,595 posts

149 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Not something I ever tried.
Some of them smell absolutely lovely when you open the tin.

It is/was in fairly common use by forestry workers, and I should imagine oil/gas rigs.
Anywhere the more 'standard' forms of nicotine intake is banned or seasonally unsafe.

I understood it was quite popular in Sweden and Norway still.
Chewing tobacco is still on offer from British tobacconists.

Snus Compared To American Dip

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Ruskie said:
Yeah just light and mellow. I like it when I have a few drinks. Ordered 10 tins and got a couple free.
Just out of interest, no skin off my nose either way, but did you read the information available re the dangers of this product?

If so, why did you order ten tins (plus free ones!) - feel the risk is over-stated, don't think it could happen to you?

I'm just curious.... thanks.

CaptainHogseye

617 posts

233 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
Ruskie said:
Yeah just light and mellow. I like it when I have a few drinks. Ordered 10 tins and got a couple free.
Just out of interest, no skin off my nose either way, but did you read the information available re the dangers of this product?

If so, why did you order ten tins (plus free ones!) - feel the risk is over-stated, don't think it could happen to you?

I'm just curious.... thanks.
Maybe he decided it was his risk and his choice, despite what the information available may state.

227bhp

10,203 posts

158 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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JMGS4 said:
NRS said:
Baryonyx said:
You won't find that many Snus users on PH because the sale of it in the EU is banned outside of Sweden. You can import it if you know where to look but I don't suppose many do.
It's for sale (and popular) in Norway too.
And Switzerland!
Well maybe we'll be able to get some now wink

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Used to work for a Swedish company, the boss quit smoking 12 years earlier when he had kids, but changed to Snus isntead. I smoke, 15'ish a day. I tried some snus and it gave me a banging headache for about an hour and I was dizzy for about 10 minutes. Angry stuff - good for flights though

jshell

12,106 posts

235 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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NRS said:
It's for sale (and popular) in Norway too.
Very! Young girls too. Mental...

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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CaptainHogseye said:
Maybe he decided it was his risk and his choice, despite what the information available may state.
He probably did, I'm just intrigued as to the decision making process.

CaptainHogseye

617 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
CaptainHogseye said:
Maybe he decided it was his risk and his choice, despite what the information available may state.
He probably did, I'm just intrigued as to the decision making process.
Not wanting to get into an argument but why are you intrigued in someone else's business. We all make decisions that to others may seem wrong for whatever reason, it would appear that you feel his choice is a bad choice, however my point is that it is his choice to make without justifying it to anybody.

Why do smokers smoke knowing the risk, why do people use motorbikes despite knowing the risks etc.

Personally I have never heard of Snus, I don't know what it is and don't care what it does.

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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CaptainHogseye said:
jdw100 said:
CaptainHogseye said:
Maybe he decided it was his risk and his choice, despite what the information available may state.
He probably did, I'm just intrigued as to the decision making process.
Not wanting to get into an argument but why are you intrigued in someone else's business. We all make decisions that to others may seem wrong for whatever reason, it would appear that you feel his choice is a bad choice, however my point is that it is his choice to make without justifying it to anybody.

Why do smokers smoke knowing the risk, why do people use motorbikes despite knowing the risks etc.

Personally I have never heard of Snus, I don't know what it is and don't care what it does.
It's an Internet forum, so it's kind of all about people's views etc.

I'm interested in his business because I just find this sort of thing, risk, of interest.

I had heard of Snus and have seen one friend suffer some ill effects from the product.

I'm not criticising the OP just genuinely intrigued as to the decision making process....

Does that help?

jdw100

5,488 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
I've tried it a few times, usually when sloshed, in Scandinavia.

I'm a non-smoker. The smell of snus* is really nice. The sensation of burning on the gums is horrendous though.

  • Amusingly, spellchecker wants to change this work to anus...
That's a whole other thread....,!

Shame you spotted the spellchecker change.

Ruskie

Original Poster:

4,529 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
Ruskie said:
Yeah just light and mellow. I like it when I have a few drinks. Ordered 10 tins and got a couple free.
Just out of interest, no skin off my nose either way, but did you read the information available re the dangers of this product?

If so, why did you order ten tins (plus free ones!) - feel the risk is over-stated, don't think it could happen to you?

I'm just curious.... thanks.
Well it is something I do occasionally when I have a big night out or weekend away. I won't be ordering anymore after these are done and will have a break for a good few months. Moderation is the key!