Who’s been downloading?
Who’s been downloading?
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Original Poster:

8,048 posts

268 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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The UK music industry has claimed victory in its first battle with illegal file-sharers after 23 people paid £50,000 to settle out of court.

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john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Just wondered how downloading a song from the net is different from recording it off the Radio

RickApple

429 posts

264 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I support bands by going to see them, rather than paying shitloads to a record company and the tts at hmv. If i really want to buy sthg i use itunes, because its cheaper and cds are essentially pointless nowadays!

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Theft is theft

If you have been downloading music without paying for it it is the same as shoplifting-Hopefully they will start prosecuting a few more and start to stamp out this practice.

Pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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john75 said:
Just wondered how downloading a song from the net is different from recording it off the Radio


It can be traced back to you

alextgreen

15,944 posts

271 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I buy all mine - fast downloads, no rubbish encoding, no mislabelled files and it's not exactly expensive either.

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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alextgreen said:
I buy all mine - fast downloads, no rubbish encoding, no mislabelled files and it's not exactly expensive either.


Exactly-There might have been some excuse when Pay to Download sites weren't available but now they are.

pesty

42,655 posts

285 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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After not buying any cd's for years in teh last coupe of years Ive been down loading a couple of tracks from various artists. Then I usualy buy the album.

I can honestly say I buy more music now than I ever did beofore.

Oh well

Graham.J

5,420 posts

288 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I object to paying £15 for an album and finding that there are only 2 good songs on there, it's a waste of money. I want to hear what I'm getting before I buy it, if I download the tracks from the album, and like it, I buy it, I've just bought 3 Craig Armstrong albums because I really liked the tracks I'd downloaded. I have bought more albums since I started downloading tracks than I did before, I've also found more bands I'd never heard of, and bought their albums because I liked the tracks.

Graham.J

5,420 posts

288 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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alextgreen said:
I buy all mine - fast downloads, no rubbish encoding, no mislabelled files and it's not exactly expensive either.
Depends how much money you have. I feel ripped off and annoyed if I've saved up to get an album only to find there are 2 songs on it that are any good, it's a waste of money.

neil.b

6,546 posts

276 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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"Some parents have been genuinely shocked to discover what their children have been up to"

Which actually means;

"Nearly all the parents had no idea what an MP3 was. When we explained it was a bit like home taping off the radio, only better quality they seemed apathetic. When we made some stuff up about how it will bring down the music business and millions of marketing and distribution people will lose their jobs, once again they shrugged their sholders. So we had to resort to telling them that illegal downloading funded child kidnappers and terrorists. THEN they got the fecking message...Hey, whatever works...."

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I get any music from limewire, or whatever its called at the moment,
buying a CD from high street, seems a bit of a pain these days. once you've been into the shop and bought it, chances are after you've played the best 2 two traks on it you've heard on radio, you wont' like rest anyway.

And, I happened to see an interview with that
Pete Waterman (remember that trios, stable of artistes do you?)
in which the veigns stood out on his neck, at the prospect of not getting his royalties through the actions of you robbers need i say more..

FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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BBC said:

The music industry sees illegal downloading as theft and has blamed it for falling CD sales.


I could have sworn I saw an article that said CD sales have been on the up rather than falling because of people downloading a track then buying the full CD because of it.

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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rich 36 said:
I get any music from limewire, or whatever its called at the moment,
buying a CD from high street, seems a bit of a pain these days. once you've been into the shop and bought it, chances are after you've played the best 2 two traks on it you've heard on radio, you wont' like rest anyway.

And, I happened to see an interview with that
Pete Waterman (remember that trios, stable of artistes do you?)
in which the veigns stood out on his neck, at the prospect of not getting his royalties through the actions of you robbers need i say more..


If you like his music pay for it-if not don't get it
It's simple really.

neil.b

6,546 posts

276 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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JagLover said:

rich 36 said:
I get any music from limewire, or whatever its called at the moment,
buying a CD from high street, seems a bit of a pain these days. once you've been into the shop and bought it, chances are after you've played the best 2 two traks on it you've heard on radio, you wont' like rest anyway.

And, I happened to see an interview with that
Pete Waterman (remember that trios, stable of artistes do you?)
in which the veigns stood out on his neck, at the prospect of not getting his royalties through the actions of you robbers need i say more..



If you like his music pay for it-if not don't get it
It's simple really.


But if you download it, listen to it, think its crap, then delete it. Are you still breaking the law?

Not so black and white is it?

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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A friend of mine was made redundant from a record company after CD sales slumped following the sharp increase in pirate downloads.

Just pay for better quality MP3s, or buy the CD and make MP3s of your own.

If you think like an artist, don't steal from them.

>> Edited by jacobyte on Friday 4th March 17:33

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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neil.b said:

JagLover said:


rich 36 said:
I get any music from limewire, or whatever its called at the moment,
buying a CD from high street, seems a bit of a pain these days. once you've been into the shop and bought it, chances are after you've played the best 2 two traks on it you've heard on radio, you wont' like rest anyway.

And, I happened to see an interview with that
Pete Waterman (remember that trios, stable of artistes do you?)
in which the veigns stood out on his neck, at the prospect of not getting his royalties through the actions of you robbers need i say more..




If you like his music pay for it-if not don't get it
It's simple really.



But if you download it, listen to it, think its crap, then delete it. Are you still breaking the law?

Not so black and white is it?


I'm not particularly interested in the specifics of the law I am talking about morals.

I will concede that if you download something you don't like and then immediatedly delete it, it is a morally grey area.

If however you download something you like and then you continue to listen to it and don't buy the album-it is theft pure and simple.



BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Graham.J said:
I object to paying £15 for an album and finding that there are only 2 good songs on there, it's a waste of money. I want to hear what I'm getting before I buy it, if I download the tracks from the album, and like it, I buy it, I've just bought 3 Craig Armstrong albums because I really liked the tracks I'd downloaded. I have bought more albums since I started downloading tracks than I did before, I've also found more bands I'd never heard of, and bought their albums because I liked the tracks.

www.cd-wow.com or www.play.com Only about £8 for most albums. I always said I would buy music if it was a fair price. If they go back to £15 I'll download

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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And if you only happen to like say 10% of the new 'Steps' CD what are you to do while the remaining
80% plays,
either the artist is worth buying on the strength of their material and not as a 'filler' track or i'll continue as i am thank you..

you might not buy a tennis racquet, as you happen to like the colour, but the rest of it is crap and affects your pleasure of the game, likewise any other thing you spend money on
unless like your self, your made of it!

>> Edited by rich 36 on Friday 4th March 17:38

Mannginger

10,253 posts

286 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I use Napster now - I love it as my PC links through my steroe and I don't have an MP3 (portable) player yet. For £10 a month I get to listen to their entire collection. And I like their radio players too.

When I get an MP3 player I think I'll pay the extra £5 a month to download it too. Seems like a bargain when you compare it to CDs doesn't it?!

Phil