Posted on behalf of PC - re. Wheels

[V6GTO]

Dear Noble owners,

GTO design said he'd post up some thoughts. Please see the design attached.
Subject to a group buy of acceptable numbers, he can produce this wheel with
the following specifications -
Model - GTO155
18x8.5 4-108 et 23 11.9kg
18x9.5 4-108 et 38 12.5kg
19x8.5 4-108 et 23 12.6kg
19x9.5 4-108 et 38 13.0kg
Construction - Cast
Standards - JWL + VIA


This is a naturally strong design, it was only designed for fast road use
and they will need to conduct further testing to see if it would be suitable
for the track, they should be stronger than the WAW originals.


If enough people are interested a complete set of 4 wheels would cost
£595.00 inc VAT.


Best regards

Dylan
GTO Design

[paulcundy]

Clarification,
In fact posted on behalf of GTO design who has posted under the new wheels thread. He said he'd come up with a proposal which he's done and I've forwarded it to Martin who's posted it to PH cos I can't get the picture thing to work either.
Regards
Paul C

[matt_fp]

Very well priced at £150 a wheel and certainly look to be a design that will suit the M12.

Paul are you tempted to get a set for testing?

Best Regards
Matt

>> Edited by matt_fp on Friday 4th March 17:58

[ultimasimon]

What do you reckon Martin?

I think they're lovely Ideal for trackdays. Surely nothing else comes close for that money?

Of course, you would have to have the centre caps 'Garyized' to match the paint

[V6GTO]

Was thinking of red sequins stuck on...what do you think?

Martin.

[Mr Noble]

Martin, I have adjusted the wheel picture so your eyes should now be able to see it the same as we all do. ok.

GN


Oh my lordy, my picture actually shows up, result!!!

>> Edited by Mr Noble on Friday 4th March 20:59

[alex s]

Count me in, what size/profile would you need to keep rolling radius etc the same on the 19"?? Deffo better than my gto3 wheels.

[jmg944t]

Though good looking and inexpensive those wheels are really heavy. How do the stockers compare for weight.

>> Edited by jmg944t on Friday 4th March 23:45

[DanH]

jmg944t said:

Though good looking and inexpensive those wheels are really heavy. How do the stockers compare for weight. >> Edited by jmg944t on Friday 4th March 23:45

Do you know the weights of the standard wheels?

[paulcundy]

See my earlier posts. M12 GTO Fronts are about 11kg, rears about 13kg. The GTO Design wheels are approx same weight. The standard Noble wheels are not as heavy as reputation would have it.
Rgerads
PauL C

[Ash GTO 3R]

Paul

I hate you, or rather my wife does. You are costing me a fortune, and a marriage!


Count me in!

[jmg944t]

paulcundy said:

See my earlier posts. M12 GTO Fronts are about 11kg, rears about 13kg. The GTO Design wheels are approx same weight. The standard Noble wheels are not as heavy as reputation would have it. Rgerads PauL C

Paul that is heavy! Fikse's of the same size weigh 9KG or so. If you watched the Daytona 24hr they were on 1/2 the cars, the same will be true of LeMans. I have had 2 sets on Porsches and can attest to the quality. I paid $2300/set for 17x8.5's and 17x10's. I have always changed wheels and brake pads for the track and there was a dramatic difference in acceleration on track wheels. Some of that may was the tires as I ran Hoosiers which are amazingly light. check out www.wheelweights.net 18x10's have a 5+ KG range, that is alot of rotating/unsprung mass to accelerate and brake.

[paulcundy]

jmg944t said:

Paul that is heavy! Fikse's of the same size weigh 9KG or so. 18x10's have a 5+ KG range, that is alot of rotating/unsprung mass to accelerate and brake.

Dear JMG,
Well vs a professional Daytona race wheel yes they are heavy but that's not what they're made for. I'm desperately trying to get some lighter track/race wheels made for a Noble but so far no one I've contacted has come up with anything other than promises - except that is Dylan at GTO Design. Yes I know about FIKSE. I've asked, faxed and e-mailed FIKSE, I've even filled in their measurements form but so far I've had no (zero, nil, none, nothing) response whatsoever from them. If you are on their side of the pond could you try to chivvy them up for us please?

Dylan, on the other hand, at GTO Design has been as good as his word, he said he'd come up with something and he has and the prices are a blinder. If you want road wheels for an M12 I can't see anyone coming close to that price. Road wheels are necessarily heavier than race wheels for durability reasons and you are right Dylan's are no lighter than any other but in my opinion they are an excellent balance between design/weight/price.
I'm waiting for him to come up with his suggestions for some race wheels.

PS - I'm not a GTO Design or Faulks preformance salesman, I'm just telling people about the things I come across during my enquiries. If anyone wants to buy his wheels deal direct please.

Regards
Paul C

[jmg944t]

Paul,
Email me the spec sheet and I will see what I can do. I think I can get something out of them.

[gotapex]

Something that just came out over here in the US that sounds pretty interesting, though costly. Carbon fiber hoop & barrel, magnesium spokes. Custom designs available for the spokes.

www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=104



Since custom spoke designs are available, that's not the only look you need to go with.

In 18 x 10.5" (the largest size they have available), it's 8 lbs (3.6 kg) in the magnesium. Hollow titanium spokes are coming in a few months, and should be 5.5 lbs (2.5 kg).

[V6GTO]

"$1500 per wheel plus $200-1500 for the spokes section"!!!!

Bloody Helll...only Justin could afford that!

Martin.

[DanH]

V6GTO said:

"$1500 per wheel plus $200-1500 for the spokes section"!!!! Bloody Helll...only Justin could afford that! Martin.

...er given the US exchange rate, thats not much more than OEM wheels for our cars!

I'd be scared witless of ruining them on a curb though.

[gotapex]

V6GTO said:

"$1500 per wheel plus $200-1500 for the spokes section"!!!! Bloody Helll...only Justin could afford that! Martin.

Seriously costly, but imagine what a Noble would feel like with a set of 2.4 to 2.5kg wheels!

[hunttheshunt]

Uh...wouldn't Carbon Fibre shatter on impact, and if memory serves from some BBS GT2 race wheels I had on a Porker, magnesium cracks over time.

I like the GTO wheels, count me in!

[jmg944t]

hunttheshunt said:

Uh...wouldn't Carbon Fibre shatter on impact, and if memory serves from some BBS GT2 race wheels I had on a Porker, magnesium cracks over time. I like the GTO wheels, count me in!

That would be my thinking as well but that does not necessarily make it true.

There is more indepth discussion of them at these links
www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=104

www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46703